<div dir="ltr">Thanks for the quick response, Jukka.<div><br></div><div>I did not realize that X/Y had been replaced by I/J. I just tried that instead and it still worked (of course) but I still get the warning message.</div><div><br></div><div>I had also been trying WMS 1.1.0 and 1.1.1 earlier and I am unable to find any combination of versions and other query parameters to quiet the warning message.</div><div><br></div><div>Regarding the BBOX range, I opened the range to a full degree in each direction and still get the warning. I think I will stick with the query I posted originally (with 1.3.0) since it works and just ignore the messages in the log.</div><div><br></div><div>This seems like sort of a hack to me (asking for a box when I want a point, etc.) which is why I asked my question in the first place. But it works fine so I'm happy!</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks again,</div><div><br></div><div>carl</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 8:29 AM Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <<a href="mailto:jukka.rahkonen@maanmittauslaitos.fi">jukka.rahkonen@maanmittauslaitos.fi</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Hi,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">You do not seem to do anything wrong. Your WMS 1.3.0 EPSG:4326 lat-long BBOX=42.94,-122.09,42.95,-122.08& gets converted into long-lat order and for some reason the lower and higher
values are equal {-122.082500,42.942500,-122.082500,42.942500}, thus this is no more a box but a point.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">GetFeatureInfo with a small bbox and width=2 and height=2 is a trick that is certainly not heavily tested because the corresponding GetMap is pretty odd despite being valid. Maybe using
slightly bigger BBOX makes Mapserver to query the backend raster with a rectangle instead of a point.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">BTW X=1 and Y=1 are not valid in WMS 1.3.0, you are supposed to use i= and j= instead. That makes me think that maybe you could have a try with a full and valid WMS 1.1.0 GetFeatureInfo
request with SRS= and BBOX in long-lat order and see if it has any effect on the msProjectRect()<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">-Jukka Rahkonen-<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Following Jukka's advice on my elevation point query, I am trying to use WMS GetFeatureInfo, <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I've mostly got it working but have a few more questions. (I am using MS4W 4.0.5 which includes MapServer 7.7.0)<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I added a LAYER to my WMS map file:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.25pt"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(121,94,38)">and an empty template except for the
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.25pt"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">line. Here's my query:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.25pt"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:rgb(33,33,33)"> VERSION=1.3.0&<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.25pt"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:rgb(33,33,33)"> REQUEST=GetFeatureInfo&<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.25pt"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:rgb(33,33,33)"> LAYERS=SRTM_3_arc-second_grid&<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.25pt"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:rgb(33,33,33)"> BBOX=</span><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:rgb(33,33,33)">42.94,-122.09,42.95,-122.08</span><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:rgb(33,33,33)">&<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.25pt"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:rgb(33,33,33)"> WIDTH=2&<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.25pt"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:rgb(33,33,33)"> X=1&<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.25pt"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:rgb(33,33,33)"> Y=1&<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.25pt"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:rgb(33,33,33)"> QUERY_LAYERS=SRTM_3_arc-second_grid</span><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:rgb(33,33,33)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.25pt"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">This works fine and returns the elevation I am expecting. However, the MapServer log complains about a "degenerate rect" every time:</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.25pt"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[Tue Nov 2 07:58:44 2021].66000 msProjectRect(): Warning: degenerate rect {-122.082500,42.942500,-122.082500,42.942500}<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What am I doing wrong here? As I posted originally, I am really only interested in a point here.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you very much,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">carl<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 12:58 AM Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <<a href="mailto:jukka.rahkonen@maanmittauslaitos.fi" target="_blank">jukka.rahkonen@maanmittauslaitos.fi</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The WMS GetFeatureInfo should work and the answer in gis.stackexhange seems to contain all the details that you need for making it to work.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">With WCS what you did is probably the best you can do with Mapserver. With some other servers you may get a single pixel output by using WCS slicing (subset=Long(-100)&subset=Lat(22))
or trimming with lowerlimit=upperlimit (subset=Long(-100,-100)&subset=Lat(22,22)) but Mapserver does not support either. See
<a href="https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/browse/GEOS-9553" target="_blank">https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/browse/GEOS-9553</a>.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I could not find a link to an answer by Stefan Meissl about why Mapserver does not support slicing but it was about dimensions. A raster image can be considered
to be two dimensional even when it has only one pixel, but by the WCS standard each trim is removing one dimension. Slicing DEM with two axes must return a zero dimensional result and raster formats do not support that. I still think that subsets with lower=upper
limits should works and return a single pixel output but that does not work with either Mapserver or Geoserver. See also
<a href="https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=mapserver-users%40lists.osgeo.org&q=subject:%22%5C%5Bmapserver%5C-users%5C%5D+WCS+GetCoverage+request+one++by+one+pixel%22&o=newest&f=1" target="_blank">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">-Jukka Rahkonen-</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Aihe:</b> [mapserver-users] Point query from Mapserver raster<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Now that I have my WMS and WCS servers working well (thanks, list!!), I have one more thing I would like to figure out how to do.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I want to do point queries on [Lat,Lon] points for their elevation from the terrain layer I have.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have done some searching and come across various ideas such as Raster Query (<a href="https://mapserver.org/input/raster.html#raster-query" target="_blank">https://mapserver.org/input/raster.html#raster-query</a>)
and a query template (<a href="https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/167239/mapserver-raster-picking-elevation-data" target="_blank">https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/167239/mapserver-raster-picking-elevation-data</a>) but haven't found enough information
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<p class="MsoNormal">I came up with a solution that works fine, but might be considered as going "All Around the Barn" What works is to add an ASCII output format to my map file that serves terrain
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