Pedro, <br><br>The shirt look Awesome!!!! Love it!!!<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:00 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marketing-request@lists.osgeo.org">marketing-request@lists.osgeo.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Send Marketing mailing list submissions to<br>
<a href="mailto:marketing@lists.osgeo.org">marketing@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
<br>
To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>
<a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing</a><br>
or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br>
<a href="mailto:marketing-request@lists.osgeo.org">marketing-request@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
<br>
You can reach the person managing the list at<br>
<a href="mailto:marketing-owner@lists.osgeo.org">marketing-owner@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
<br>
When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>
than "Re: Contents of Marketing digest..."<br>
<br>
<br>
Today's Topics:<br>
<br>
1. RE: A question to the marketing committee (Jason Birch)<br>
2. web site refactoring [was: Marketing Digest, Vol 16, Issue<br>
10] (Lorenzo Becchi)<br>
3. Re: Re: Marketing Digest, Vol 16, Issue 10 (Frank Warmerdam)<br>
<br>
<br>
----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
<br>
Message: 1<br>
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:40:49 -0800<br>
From: "Jason Birch" <<a href="mailto:Jason.Birch@nanaimo.ca">Jason.Birch@nanaimo.ca</a>><br>
Subject: RE: [Marketing] A question to the marketing committee<br>
To: <<a href="mailto:marketing@lists.osgeo.org">marketing@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
Cc: Pedro-Juan Ferrer Matoses <<a href="mailto:vehrka@gmail.com">vehrka@gmail.com</a>><br>
Message-ID:<br>
<<a href="mailto:8E468917B01800408B91984428BE03DD05C573BD@starfish.nanaimo.ca">8E468917B01800408B91984428BE03DD05C573BD@starfish.nanaimo.ca</a>><br>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br>
<br>
That is a really cool shirt design, one that I'm sure lots of geo-geeks like me would want to buy :)<br>
<br>
Jason<br>
<br>
________________________________<br>
<br>
From: Pedro-Juan Ferrer Matoses<br>
Subject: [Marketing] A question to the marketing committee<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
[1] <a href="http://geomaticblog.net/files/images/osgeo-es/osgeo-es_ES.jpg" target="_blank">http://geomaticblog.net/files/images/osgeo-es/osgeo-es_ES.jpg</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
------------------------------<br>
<br>
Message: 2<br>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:38:44 +0100<br>
From: Lorenzo Becchi <<a href="mailto:lorenzo@ominiverdi.com">lorenzo@ominiverdi.com</a>><br>
Subject: [Marketing] web site refactoring [was: Marketing Digest, Vol<br>
16, Issue 10]<br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:marketing@lists.osgeo.org">marketing@lists.osgeo.org</a>, Web committee discussions<br>
<<a href="mailto:webcom@lists.osgeo.org">webcom@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:49746644.5020107@ominiverdi.com">49746644.5020107@ominiverdi.com</a>><br>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Cameron Shorter wrote:<br>
> Daniele,<br>
> No need to be sorry. It is excellent to see people taking initiative.<br>
+1<br>
<br>
@Daniele: if you can please use a better subject than "Marketing<br>
Digest", we would appreciate.<br>
<br>
><br>
> Re who is in responsible for what:<br>
><br>
> The beauty of OSGeo is that anyone can join any committee, so it is<br>
> incredibly easy for us to restructure ourselves.<br>
><br>
> The marketing committee have collectively noted that Websites are<br>
> important for marketing, and that $$ should be allocated to the<br>
> website from the marketing budget. Only $20K (plus I think webcom had<br>
> $10K already?) and that will not go far.<br>
><br>
> I think that Webcom should continue to be responsible for the website,<br>
> and also responsible for spending the $20K budget. Any marketing<br>
> people who want to have a say can join the webcom email list. (I<br>
> suspect most of us are on the list already).<br>
><br>
<br>
I think this is a great initiative but remembers me some projects for<br>
the development I've seen here and there travelling around.<br>
I guess that if you want to give $20K to webcom you should better ask<br>
them if they are interested in and what is their feeling about<br>
priorities (participative approach [1]).<br>
Chris has sent a good list of objections and I have some more that I've<br>
posted [2] before.<br>
<br>
regards<br>
lorenzo<br>
<br>
[1] <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participation_%28decision_making%29" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participation_(decision_making)</a><br>
[2] <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/webcom/2008-December/001937.html" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/webcom/2008-December/001937.html</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
> daniele.ocu ocu wrote:<br>
>> Dear all,<br>
>><br>
>> I am veryveryvery sorry If I seemed too hasty in the words I chose in<br>
>> the prior email. Of course that if any actual action in the website<br>
>> is taken, it will be of common desire both of the Marketing<br>
>> committee, of the Webcom and of other who are interested.<br>
>><br>
>> This is just the beginning, where *_gathering information_* is a<br>
>> crucial part.<br>
>><br>
>> Getting _*your ideas*_ on what is good about the website and what<br>
>> might be object to change is an extremely important part of planning<br>
>> what can be done.<br>
>><br>
>> This is JUST AN EFFORT to get the OSGeo Community to *_start<br>
>> discussing and thinking_* of ways to gather more users, contributers,<br>
>> volunteers and *sponsors* to this vibrant community.<br>
>><br>
>> This is STILL Just a discussion, a place to set ideas.<br>
>><br>
>> Daniele.<br>
>><br>
>> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Christopher Schmidt<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:crschmidt@metacarta.com">crschmidt@metacarta.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:crschmidt@metacarta.com">crschmidt@metacarta.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 03:43:32PM +0900, daniele.ocu ocu wrote:<br>
>> > Dear Marketing committee,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > We have started working on the website redesign.<br>
>><br>
>> Daniele,<br>
>><br>
>> I'm concerned that this is being done without interaction with<br>
>> WebCom --<br>
>> or if this interaction is happening, I'm not aware of it.<br>
>><br>
>> Currently, I've expressed some concerns about the current state<br>
>> of the<br>
>> OSGeo website, but I do not feel that there is sufficient<br>
>> agreement in<br>
>> what the website should *be* that we can discuss Content Design,<br>
>> Layout<br>
>> Design, etc.<br>
>><br>
>> I have some strong ideas about what the OSGeo website should be --<br>
>> or at<br>
>> least, questions about what it should be that would need answering<br>
>> before any redesign was attempted.<br>
>><br>
>> Additionally, I think that any website redesign effort can only be<br>
>> undertaken if a sufficiently motivated set of developers in the<br>
>> website<br>
>> technology are involved. I'm not convinced that that is currently<br>
>> the<br>
>> case; I don't know how much experience you have with the current<br>
>> website<br>
>> technology, but I didn't have the impression that you were<br>
>> comfortable<br>
>> implementing possible changes in this regard.<br>
>><br>
>> At the moment, I would like to say that although Marketing can<br>
>> feel free<br>
>> to create an advisory suggestion to WebCom about suggestions for the<br>
>> website, I do ont feel that WebCom has suficient resources to<br>
>> implement<br>
>> any possible suggestions, and I would consider the feedback from<br>
>> Marketing -- except insofar as it relates directly towards marketing<br>
>> tasks like management of branding -- to be advisory only.<br>
>><br>
>> Please take this into account in any decisions/investment placed<br>
>> in this<br>
>> direction.<br>
>><br>
>> SOmetime in the near future, I will do my best to outline my<br>
>> hopes for<br>
>> the OSGeo website to the members of the community; I expect the end<br>
>> result will be a discussion (either on mailing lists or in a more<br>
>> interactive forum) about what the OSGeo website should be. When I do<br>
>> this, I will involve Marketing in that discussion as much as<br>
>> possible.<br>
>><br>
>> I appreciate the effort you want to go through, but I just feel<br>
>> at the<br>
>> moment that it might be a wasted effort due to lack of general<br>
>> agreement<br>
>> on the tasks needed for the website; if this is the result of some<br>
>> larger discussion I'm missing, I apologize, and I look forward to<br>
>> resolving my confusion. I don't want to stop the Marketing committee<br>
>> from participating in website advisory positions, but I also don't<br>
>> want<br>
>> to see anyone put forth effort which may be wasted.<br>
>><br>
>> Best Regards,<br>
>> --<br>
>> Christopher Schmidt<br>
>> MetaCarta<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Researcher @ Osaka City University<br>
>> Graduate School for Creative Cities<br>
>> <a href="http://gisws.media.osaka-cu.ac.jp/gistrends" target="_blank">http://gisws.media.osaka-cu.ac.jp/gistrends</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
>><br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> Marketing mailing list<br>
>> <a href="mailto:Marketing@lists.osgeo.org">Marketing@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
>> <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing</a><br>
>><br>
><br>
><br>
<br>
<br>
------------------------------<br>
<br>
Message: 3<br>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:49:11 -0500<br>
From: Frank Warmerdam <<a href="mailto:warmerdam@pobox.com">warmerdam@pobox.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Marketing] Re: Marketing Digest, Vol 16, Issue 10<br>
To: Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:marketing@lists.osgeo.org">marketing@lists.osgeo.org</a>, "daniele.ocu ocu"<br>
<<a href="mailto:daniele.ocu@gmail.com">daniele.ocu@gmail.com</a>><br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4974A0F7.2050505@pobox.com">4974A0F7.2050505@pobox.com</a>><br>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<br>
<br>
Cameron Shorter wrote:<br>
> The marketing committee have collectively noted that Websites are<br>
> important for marketing, and that $$ should be allocated to the website<br>
> from the marketing budget. Only $20K (plus I think webcom had $10K<br>
> already?) and that will not go far.<br>
<br>
Cameron,<br>
<br>
I'd note that there is no $10K budget for webcom. There was an item in<br>
the 2008 budget but that lapsed at the end of year unused.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
--<br>
---------------------------------------+--------------------------------------<br>
I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, <a href="mailto:warmerdam@pobox.com">warmerdam@pobox.com</a><br>
light and sound - activate the windows | <a href="http://pobox.com/%7Ewarmerdam" target="_blank">http://pobox.com/~warmerdam</a><br>
and watch the world go round - Rush | Geospatial Programmer for Rent<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
------------------------------<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Marketing mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Marketing@lists.osgeo.org">Marketing@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing</a><br>
<br>
<br>
End of Marketing Digest, Vol 16, Issue 14<br>
*****************************************<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Researcher @ Osaka City University<br>Graduate School for Creative Cities<br><a href="http://gisws.media.osaka-cu.ac.jp/gistrends">http://gisws.media.osaka-cu.ac.jp/gistrends</a><br>
<br><br>