<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Dear marketing committee,</div><div><br></div><div>I like Daniel Morissette's summary I think it makes it &nbsp;easier to understand and keeps things clear. Senior Ambassador and General Ambassador. I also agree that they should be voted on instead of appointed.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Daniele</div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); font-size: medium;"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.300781); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.234375); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.234375);"><br></span></font></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); font-size: medium;"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.300781); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.234375); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.234375);"><br></span></font></span></div><div><br>Sent from my Commodore 64.</div><div><br>On May 11, 2012, at 13:00, <a href="mailto:marketing-request@lists.osgeo.org">marketing-request@lists.osgeo.org</a> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>Send Marketing mailing list submissions to</span><br><span> &nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="mailto:marketing@lists.osgeo.org"><a href="mailto:marketing@lists.osgeo.org">marketing@lists.osgeo.org</a></a></span><br><span></span><br><span>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit</span><br><span> &nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing"><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing</a></a></span><br><span>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to</span><br><span> &nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="mailto:marketing-request@lists.osgeo.org"><a href="mailto:marketing-request@lists.osgeo.org">marketing-request@lists.osgeo.org</a></a></span><br><span></span><br><span>You can reach the person managing the list at</span><br><span> &nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="mailto:marketing-owner@lists.osgeo.org"><a href="mailto:marketing-owner@lists.osgeo.org">marketing-owner@lists.osgeo.org</a></a></span><br><span></span><br><span>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific</span><br><span>than "Re: Contents of Marketing digest..."</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Today's Topics:</span><br><span></span><br><span> &nbsp;&nbsp;1. Re: Re: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo</span><br><span> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Ambassador role (Cameron Shorter)</span><br><span> &nbsp;&nbsp;2. Re: Re: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo</span><br><span> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Ambassador role (Daniel Morissette)</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>----------------------------------------------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 1</span><br><span>Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 21:13:16 +1000</span><br><span>From: Cameron Shorter &lt;<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><span>Subject: Re: [Marketing] Re: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an</span><br><span> &nbsp; &nbsp;OSGeo &nbsp; &nbsp;Ambassador role</span><br><span>To: marketing &lt;<a href="mailto:marketing@lists.osgeo.org">marketing@lists.osgeo.org</a>&gt;</span><br><span>Cc: OSGeo-Board &lt;<a href="mailto:board@lists.osgeo.org">board@lists.osgeo.org</a>&gt;</span><br><span>Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:4FACF44C.2060403@gmail.com">4FACF44C.2060403@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed</span><br><span></span><br><span>I can see that there are at least 2 interpretations of "Ambassador" </span><br><span>which seems to be clouding the issue. It might help if we refined as:</span><br><span></span><br><span>Senior Ambassador:</span><br><span>* Someone with extensive OSGeo qualifications, probably a board member, </span><br><span>or ex board member, but might be extended to a select few others. </span><br><span>Ideally will have excellent communication and presentation skills.</span><br><span>* This role will keynote conferences, and negotiate on behalf of OSGeo </span><br><span>(eg for a MOU).</span><br><span></span><br><span>General Ambassador:</span><br><span>* One of the thousands of OSGeo leaders, developers and users who are </span><br><span>passionate about Geospatial Open Source, who wishes to promote OSGeo</span><br><span>* These people will present on behalf of OSGeo at one of the hundreds of </span><br><span>relevant conferences and workshops around the world.</span><br><span>* Selection of this role could be anyone who applies, or could be </span><br><span>limited to a voted group, such as Charter members.</span><br><span></span><br><span>On 11/05/2012 12:16 PM, Daniel Morissette wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>I think it's a good idea to try to better define the role but I have </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>no clue how to do it right. FWIW here is what I wrote about this </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>question during the board meeting:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"i think for the ambassador label to have some value then it needs to </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>not be too inclusive otherwise if anyone can name themselves an </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>ambassador then we'll need to create a new label for the real higher </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>profile "ambassadors" that event organizers will want to go after"</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"for the time being [i.e. until a better mechanism can be defined], </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I'm happy with ambassador being someone appointed by the board to </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>represent OSGeo at an official function or event, with or without </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>funding. The first examples that come to mind are Arnulf's various </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>ambassadorship duties, and MPG's upcoming meeting with Eclipse"</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 12-05-10 7:05 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>As per Board logs discussing Ambassador role:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeo/%23osgeo.2012-05-10.log">http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeo/%23osgeo.2012-05-10.log</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>17:51:48 archaeogeek: We need to go back to Cameron too- but not be too</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>discouraging...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>17:52:08 darkblue_b: it seems Cameron is following the Board list</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Yes, I did catch up on the board IRC logs as have been monitoring the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>board email list. (Meeting at is 3am, which doesn't work well for me).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Re discussion around definition of the Ambassador role, I'm more than</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>happy to see the role being completely redefined from my original </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>proposal.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> From logs, I'm hearing what people don't want from the Ambassador role,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>but I don't think someone has clearly defined what is wanted.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Regarding funding, I think that by default, we should assume that no</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>travel funds are allocated to Ambassadors. This will result in either:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>1. Conferences paying for highly experienced ambassadors as keynotes</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>2. Conference attendees, who are already ambassadors (and usually local)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>acting as presenters</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>3. In special cases, such as sending someone to set up an Eclipse MOU,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the board may approve one of the highly qualified ambassadors (a board</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>member, or maybe a charter member)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>With regards to setting up a process for selecting quality ambassadors,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the tricky part is in setting a criteria for which we exclude people.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>There will always be volunteers wishing to be an ambassador, who is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>going to say someone is not qualified?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Do we introduce the overhead of another annual vote, getting the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>community to vote for the 10 best ambassadors?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Do we ask the board to approve or not approve applications from</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>individuals to become ambassadors? It could be politically very</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>alienating for individuals to be rejected by the board for such </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>requests.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>We then need to work out how Ambassadors are refreshed or retired. I</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>propose that every year Ambassadors are removed, from our list. If</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Ambassadors still consider themselves active, they may update their</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>profile, and re-introduce themselves into our Ambassador wiki.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Working around these limitations was what drove the proposal of:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>* Allow any volunteer to become an Ambassador</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>* However, support categorisation by voted OSGeo categories (Board,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Charter, OSGeo PSC, etc). We could introduce another category of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>"Entertaining Speaker" or similar, with some associated criteria.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>* Force a refresh of Ambassador roles every year, and get Ambassadors to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>update their profile if they are still interested.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>If someone can suggest a better, more practical idea, then I'd be keen</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>to hear it.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 9/05/2012 6:10 PM, Seven (aka Arnulf) wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hash: SHA1</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Board,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>in preparation for tomorrow's meeting please read through the mail</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>that Cameron sent wrt defining the Ambassador role:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2012-May/010296.html">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2012-May/010296.html</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>At first my impression was that this is complicating things a bit (my</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>thoughts were more like: anyone can become an ambassador). But the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>discussion on the lists confirmed that this looks like a good way</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>forward and addresses most issues brought up. I also like the idea</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>that Marketing runs with it once the board has decided that the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>general direction is in line with our mission and policies.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>So far we should be 6 out of 8 directors at the meeting tomorrow</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>meaning that we have quorum. But even if more drop out we can still</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>vote via mail which worked quite well over the past few meetings.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Talk to you tomorrow.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thanks,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Arnulf</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 05.05.2012 07:33, Cameron Shorter wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Following on from ideas from this previous email thread, and in</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>particular picking up on Stefano's ideas, I'd like to make the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>following proposal:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I suggest that we define an OSGeo Ambassador role very widely, but</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>also have different levels of Ambassador - so that conference</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>organisors can still feel like they are getting someone</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>distinguished and pick someone exclusive.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The OSGeo Ambassador categories would be:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>1. OSGeo Board Member 2. Ex OSGeo Board Member These are the elite</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>of the OSGeo community. We only have 8 active board members in the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>world, which have been peer selected based upon their outstanding</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>leadership in the greater OSGeo community.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>3. Charter member Charter membership is obtained through a strongly</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>contested selective process. Members tend to be developers and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>leaders in one or more OSGeo projects, and/or OSGeo business</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>leaders, and have a deep understanding in many of the OSGeo</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>projects and principles of Open Source.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>4. Voted position in an OSGeo community These people hold a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>position of responsibility within one of the OSGeo sub-communities.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>This may be a chair of an OSGeo Regional Chapter, or as a member of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>a project's Project Steering Committee.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>5. OSGeo community member These people are actively involved in one</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>or more OSGeo communities, acting as a developer, user or supporter</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>of OSGeo software.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Anyone fitting one of the above categories, may put themselves</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>forward as an OSGeo Ambassador. Each ambassador would be expected</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>to create a profile for themselves on an OSGeo Ambassador wiki</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>page, which includes:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>* Name * City and Country of residence * Phone, Email * Photo *</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>OSGeo relevant experience. (~150 words)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I also propose that the OSGeo Marketing committee would be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>responsible for overseeing the Ambassador wiki page, once the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>guidelines have been put into place.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I welcome feedback from all, and call upon the board to make a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>final vote on whether this proposal (or a variant) should be put</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>into action.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 21/04/12 20:47, Stefano Costa wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Il 21/04/2012 12:28, Jody Garnett ha scritto:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I would hope that our charter members (who have been through a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>public nomination process in part for their involvement) are</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>already acting in the capacity of "Ambassador" for OSGeo.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I totally agree on this point. The fact that charter members</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>only official role is to nominate new charter members and the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Board is IMHO a weakness. Their role as OSGeo champions (and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>"Ambassadors" if there's consensus on that) should be emphasised.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Quick ideas:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>- personal pages on <a href="http://osgeo.org">osgeo.org</a> (<a href="http://osgeo.org/members/johndoe">osgeo.org/members/johndoe</a>) -</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>@osgeo.org e-mail address (even an alias is fine) to be used as</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>their primary address - interviews on the main blog - a track</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>record of their public activity wrt OSGeo promotion, software</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>development, management, documentation and what else</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>In this way the charter members could gain a higher visibility in</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the wider geospatial community and be recognised as official</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>representatives.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Ciao steko</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>BTW is there any process in place to "remove" charter members if</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>they become inactive, move to another planet or are deemed unfit</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>for the purpose by the community?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________ Discuss mailing</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>list <a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org"><a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org">Discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a></a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 20/04/12 07:24, Cameron Shorter wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 20/04/2012 4:06 AM, Michael P. Gerlek wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Do we have any policies and cost structures for the Ambassador</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>function yet?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I've seen a few people talking about creating an OSGeo</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Ambassador role. Arnulf I think might have been the first to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>mention it, and I think it is an excellent idea. I'm also aware</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>that the OGC are considering developing OGC ambassadors too.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>So I'd like to open the floor and see what people think an</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>ambassador's role could involve, which leads into the qualities</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>we would wish our ambassador's to have, which leads into the ways</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>we may select an ambassador.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Let me start by noting some of the driving factors: 1. Arnulf has</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>noted that as OSGeo president, he has spent a significant amount</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>of time on areoplanes travelling around the world to talk on</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>behalf of OSGeo. He has suggested that this role should be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>shared. Conference organisors, who have a primary goal of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>attracting attendees, look for authoritative figureheads to talk</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>at conferences. They are expected to have a deep insight into a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>specific domain, such as OSGeo. They should also speak well, even</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>better if they are entertaining.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>2. OSGeo is a sexy topic has many conferences, and there are</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>hundreds, if not thousands of conferences around the world which</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>would like to see an OSGeo presence.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>3. OSGeo is fortunate to draw membership from around the world,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>including boasting a number of very healthy local chapters. As</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>such, we are likely to have potential ambassadors in most</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>counties. (We might be a bit short in Antarctica)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>4. There are times when negotiating MOUs or similar with other</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>countries, it would be useful to have someone local speak with</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>authority on behalf of OSGeo.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>5. Note that there are conflicting interests here of wanting to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>open up the role for anyone who volunteers, verses maintaining a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>selectiveness and prestige for the role which is the key</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>selection criteria for conferences asking for an ambassador.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>As such, I think it important that ambassadors can only be voted</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>into the position, and not handed out to anyone. We already vote</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>for a board, and charter members. I think board members should be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>considered ambassadors by default. Should charter members be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>considered ambassadors? Charter members only get this role after</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>demonstrating a commitment to OSGeo, so will likely have a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>reasonable depth of OSGeo knowledge. Maybe we should ask for a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>history of speaking well (as demonstrated at conferences), to the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>ambassador criteria.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Then lastly, do we wish to invite ambassadors from a greater</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>circle? At this point, I'd probably err on saying no, as if the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>entry bar to becoming an ambassador is too easy, then the mystic</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>of the role will be lost.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>- -- Exploring Space, Time and Mind</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://arnulf.us">http://arnulf.us</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - <a href="http://enigmail.mozdev.org/"><a href="http://enigmail.mozdev.org/">http://enigmail.mozdev.org/</a></a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>iEYEARECAAYFAk+qJmEACgkQXmFKW+BJ1b0gQQCfU9rVZZslcrlKsKq2SKcruqcO</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>EzIAn1+l48yyhlfN6BgAmwTvjCzBO4NV</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>=IGVC</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>-- </span><br><span>Cameron Shorter</span><br><span>Geospatial Solutions Manager</span><br><span>Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050</span><br><span>Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254</span><br><span></span><br><span>Think Globally, Fix Locally</span><br><span>Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source</span><br><span><a href="http://www.lisasoft.com">http://www.lisasoft.com</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 2</span><br><span>Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 10:45:02 -0400</span><br><span>From: Daniel Morissette &lt;<a href="mailto:dmorissette@mapgears.com">dmorissette@mapgears.com</a>&gt;</span><br><span>Subject: Re: [Marketing] Re: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an</span><br><span> &nbsp; &nbsp;OSGeo &nbsp; &nbsp;Ambassador role</span><br><span>To: marketing &lt;<a href="mailto:marketing@lists.osgeo.org">marketing@lists.osgeo.org</a>&gt;, OSGeo-Board</span><br><span> &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;<a href="mailto:board@lists.osgeo.org">board@lists.osgeo.org</a>&gt;</span><br><span>Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:4FAD25EE.2060906@mapgears.com">4FAD25EE.2060906@mapgears.com</a>&gt;</span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed</span><br><span></span><br><span>On 12-05-11 7:13 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>I can see that there are at least 2 interpretations of "Ambassador"</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>which seems to be clouding the issue. It might help if we refined as:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Senior Ambassador:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>* Someone with extensive OSGeo qualifications, probably a board member,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>or ex board member, but might be extended to a select few others.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Ideally will have excellent communication and presentation skills.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>* This role will keynote conferences, and negotiate on behalf of OSGeo</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>(eg for a MOU).</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>General Ambassador:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>* One of the thousands of OSGeo leaders, developers and users who are</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>passionate about Geospatial Open Source, who wishes to promote OSGeo</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>* These people will present on behalf of OSGeo at one of the hundreds of</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>relevant conferences and workshops around the world.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>* Selection of this role could be anyone who applies, or could be</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>limited to a voted group, such as Charter members.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>That sounds like a good summary/starting point to me. However multiple </span><br><span>classes of "ambassadors" may be a bit confusing so we may just want to </span><br><span>use different words/names for both categories to avoid confusion.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>-- </span><br><span>Daniel Morissette</span><br><span><a href="http://www.mapgears.com/">http://www.mapgears.com/</a></span><br><span>Provider of Professional MapServer Support since 2000</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Marketing mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Marketing@lists.osgeo.org">Marketing@lists.osgeo.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>End of Marketing Digest, Vol 55, Issue 12</span><br><span>*****************************************</span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>