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Jeroen,<br>
While I also have a mild preference for the term of "Ambassador"
over "Advocate", I'm very mindful that we have talked around this
issue for a long time without any action. I think it important that
we wrap this up so we can move onto other OSGeo opportunities.<br>
<br>
So far, I don't believe we have had any major objection to allowing
OSGeo members to self register themselves, so that Conferences and
the like can find authoritative speakers. So unless I see a strong
backlash of opinion, I'm going to push ahead of the next couple of
weeks to make it happen.<br>
<br>
A few more comments inline below...<br>
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On 10/06/12 01:45, Jeroen Ticheler wrote:
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cite="mid:A8EBFF93-7D68-4E80-AC21-3128CFDEE5D0@geocat.net"
type="cite">
<div>Hi Cameron,</div>
<div>I'm not blocking the motion, that would require a -1.</div>
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Noted, thanks.<br>
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cite="mid:A8EBFF93-7D68-4E80-AC21-3128CFDEE5D0@geocat.net"
type="cite">
<div> I'm just giving a signal that I think the role is needed and
should have an appropriate title which adds value to OSGeo from
a marketing perspective. I doubt that Advocate does justice to
that, also considering that all CM's are advocates to OSGeo by
default. The term Ambassador has my preference honestly. <br>
</div>
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Agreed, but better to have Advocates than be blocked completely.<br>
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cite="mid:A8EBFF93-7D68-4E80-AC21-3128CFDEE5D0@geocat.net"
type="cite">
<div>It would have my preference if that role was indeed filled
upon invitation. A majority (is that indeed so !?) is in favor
of a more community driven, personal subscription process for
such role. I'm happy to support that if that is the decision.
And I see at that point no problem in giving them the name
Ambassador. Our democratic process at that point kind of gives
self proclaimed Ambassadors the chance to wear the title on
OSGeo's behalf. <br>
</div>
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cite="mid:A8EBFF93-7D68-4E80-AC21-3128CFDEE5D0@geocat.net"
type="cite">
<div>Shouldn't we first vote on the way we select our ambassadors?</div>
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The process proposed is for self nomination.<br>
This has been up for discussion for a month or so without strong
dissent (that I noticed). Also floated in the IRC meeting without
dissent.<br>
<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:A8EBFF93-7D68-4E80-AC21-3128CFDEE5D0@geocat.net"
type="cite">
<div> Are they self proclaimed or are they proposed by the board
(or marketing committee, some other committee)?</div>
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Self proclaimed, as per:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Advocate#Process_for_becoming_an_OSGeo_Advocate">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Advocate#Process_for_becoming_an_OSGeo_Advocate</a><br>
<br>
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type="cite">
<div>If that is clear, we can define the details of the profile
(there has been stuff written up already, that may need some
changes depending on how ambassadors are identified). And we can
define the best name for the profile.</div>
<div>The most important is that we have an ambassadors program
that really adds value to OSGeo and does not duplicate or
degrades CM's</div>
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<br>
I see the "OSGeo Advocate Register" as an advertising space,
primarily for Charter Members, but which can be used by others as
well.<br>
I don't see it as a way to duplicate the role of the Charter Member,
but rather to enhance it.<br>
<br>
<br>
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cite="mid:A8EBFF93-7D68-4E80-AC21-3128CFDEE5D0@geocat.net"
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<div>My 2 cents</div>
<div>Jeroen</div>
<div><br>
Op 9 jun. 2012 om 13:28 heeft Cameron Shorter <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
het volgende geschreven:<br>
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Jeroen, Venkatesh,<br>
If you wish to see a different title, then please suggest one,
otherwise please don't block the motion unless you feel
strongly that we should remove the role altogether. So far, I
haven't heard anyone suggest a better title.<br>
This is what has been debated so far:
<ul>
<li> "OSGeo Ambassador" - Implies someone who is a selected
by the board, rather the reality of a self appointed
volunteer; concern this might have legal ramifications for
OSGeo. </li>
<li> "OSGeo Speakers Bureau" - limiting the role to speaking
and not very prestigious </li>
<li> "Authoritative OSGeo Personalities" - a bit long and
informal </li>
<li> "OSGeo Advocate" - this was the final term decided upon
</li>
</ul>
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On 09/06/12 19:51, Venkatesh Raghavan wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:4FD31C9B.8050702@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp"
type="cite">On 2012/06/09 16:46, Jeroen Ticheler wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">Apologies I was unable to attend the
meeting. <br>
<br>
-0 from me. <br>
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<br>
-0 from me too. To me member of OSGeo (charter or otherwise)
<br>
is an OSGeo advocate. <br>
<br>
Venka <br>
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<blockquote type="cite"> <br>
I've read the logs and am not convinced this change makes
sense. As Danniel noted the term advocate doesn't really
provide the prestige we're looking for, we are all
advocates. <br>
My impression of the discussion on IRC is that the email
exchanges have been largely ignored and have not been part
of the meeting discussion. I think it needs more thoughtÂ
before we decide on the name. <br>
Cheers, <br>
Jeroen <br>
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