<div><div>Hmmm, I would not be sure If the 'blinkers' were pushers, bluffers or the insecure ones ;-)</div></div><div>My take; let's play it straight (the good-/bad-cop play we may reserve for the Skype call with prospects ;-) and extend it with shipment-date-plus-7-days (which was our initial time frame)</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>Op wo 8 feb. 2017 om 23:07 schreef Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_msg">Okay, as per our letter we can update the page with an extended deadline. Jeffery is also CCed in communication with each firm and can now reply with additional information.<div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">We can also play a game where we see of any of the agencies "blink" and ask for an extension first :) Happy to be guided by you and Jeffery in this.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg"><br clear="all" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-1280330458006118509gmail_signature gmail_msg" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg">--</div><div class="gmail_msg">Jody Garnett</div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg">
<br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg">On 8 February 2017 at 13:48, Marc Vloemans <span class="gmail_msg"><<a href="mailto:marcvloemans1@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">marcvloemans1@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Thanks Jeff & Jody,<br class="gmail_msg">
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Your work looks like you have done this more than once!<br class="gmail_msg">
EOI response looks also quite easy/practical to tailor per individual agency.<br class="gmail_msg">
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I respect Jody's wish to keep the pace, but deadline of before-20-Feb is pushing it for the agencies....<br class="gmail_msg">
Perhaps a few days later would help, especially to give the only non-native-English-speaking agency not too much of a disadvantage ....<br class="gmail_msg">
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Kind regards,<br class="gmail_msg">
Marc Vloemans<br class="gmail_msg">
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> 1. Re: draft response to shortlisted agencies (Jeffrey Johnson)<br class="gmail_msg">
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> Message: 1<br class="gmail_msg">
> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 06:07:16 -0800<br class="gmail_msg">
> From: Jeffrey Johnson <<a href="mailto:ortelius@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">ortelius@gmail.com</a>><br class="gmail_msg">
> To: Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>><br class="gmail_msg">
> Cc: OSGeo Marketing <<a href="mailto:marketing@lists.osgeo.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">marketing@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br class="gmail_msg">
> Subject: Re: [Marketing] draft response to shortlisted agencies<br class="gmail_msg">
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>> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 5:47 PM, Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg">
>> Okay with no further feedback I am going to break this up into individual<br class="gmail_msg">
>> pages, and ask Jachym to send them out. Unless you think one of us can do so<br class="gmail_msg">
>> ..<br class="gmail_msg">
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>> --<br class="gmail_msg">
>> Jody Garnett<br class="gmail_msg">
>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> On 7 February 2017 at 15:26, Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg">
>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> I have personalized each reply (using organization initials and colors so<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> you can see what to send). On close review (when personalizing each reply) a<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> couple of the responses impressed me more.<br class="gmail_msg">
>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> - I have pushed the response date back until the 20th, due to our delay in<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> requesting proposals.<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> - I added your name / marketing committee at the bottom of the letter<br class="gmail_msg">
>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> One batch of changes I have held back on is the use of "proposal" vs "some<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> more details". I am under the impression nwe are formally asking for<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> proposal at this time (including financials, technical and schedule) - and<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> the next step after this is contract negotiation.<br class="gmail_msg">
>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> If that is correct I recommend we tignten up the letter still further to<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> use the word "proposal" and have a solid deadline at the end of the month.<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> --<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> Jody Garnett<br class="gmail_msg">
>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>>> On 7 February 2017 at 11:51, Jeffrey Johnson <<a href="mailto:ortelius@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">ortelius@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>>> Folks, sincere apologies for the delay on this. Im dealing with<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>> multiple family medical issues in the past several days and trying to<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>> juggle normal work as well.<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>>> I've started a draft here. Can you please take a look and add<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>> edits/comments as appopriate.<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>>> <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ezAfjQaC-wZrruApDkhjvOV7VOFFpunkYsGqAeSY0rw/edit" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ezAfjQaC-wZrruApDkhjvOV7VOFFpunkYsGqAeSY0rw/edit</a><br class="gmail_msg">
>>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>>> Jody, Im not sure we have the time to write a personalized response to<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>> each.<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>>> Ill come back to this later today/tomorrow as time allows.<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 11:57 PM, Jeffrey Johnson <<a href="mailto:ortelius@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">ortelius@gmail.com</a>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>> I'll get to it tomorrow, apologize RS for the delay.<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 23:56 Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>>>>> I did not get a chance to work on this today - any takers?<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>> --<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>> Jody Garnett<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>> On 6 February 2017 at 09:47, Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>> Quick heads up - the response to shortlisted agencies did not go out<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>> over<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>> the weekend, so we will need to draft up a letter to send.<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>> What do we need to say:<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>> a) start a good doc so we can comment/collaborate faster than the<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>> wiki<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>> b) outline the letter details (what we are requesting finance /<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>> technical<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>> / schedule variations)<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>> c) have a paragraph specific to each response thanking them for the<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>> parts<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>> they did really well (samples above and below our budget, explicitly<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>> answering acceptance criteria, hunting down our logos for use in<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>> their EOI).<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>> Please respond to this email with anything I missed? If you have time<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>> create the document (and send invitation privately to marketing<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>> committee<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>> members).<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>> --<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>> Jody Garnett<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>> PS. Jeffery I know you are out of the mix today, can we ask you to<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>> review<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>>>>> the result and send it?<br class="gmail_msg">
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> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 10:23:43 -0800<br class="gmail_msg">
> From: Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>><br class="gmail_msg">
> To: OSGeo Marketing <<a href="mailto:marketing@lists.osgeo.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">marketing@lists.osgeo.org</a>>, Jachym Cepicky<br class="gmail_msg">
> <<a href="mailto:jachym.cepicky@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">jachym.cepicky@gmail.com</a>><br class="gmail_msg">
> Subject: [Marketing] random catchup on RFP<br class="gmail_msg">
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> <<a href="mailto:CAOhbgAmZk_J8%2BwNeDtBYAq7g%2BUHTvbi2bPQWHs8Tpa-qZoH5xQ@mail.gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">CAOhbgAmZk_J8+wNeDtBYAq7g+UHTvbi2bPQWHs8Tpa-qZoH5xQ@mail.gmail.com</a>><br class="gmail_msg">
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> Thanks to everyone for getting together letters to send out to shortlisted<br class="gmail_msg">
> firms. Jachym was able to send them out this morning - Jeffery Johnson was<br class="gmail_msg">
> CCed on the correspondence and can direct any questions back to us.<br class="gmail_msg">
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> Because these responses cover commercial-in-confidence feedback marketing<br class="gmail_msg">
> committee members have been invited to a private google document. Board<br class="gmail_msg">
> members can see the resulting PDFs in dropbox.<br class="gmail_msg">
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> Due to our delay we have extended the response period until Monday. I did<br class="gmail_msg">
> not feel comfortable slipping schedule very much as that would set a<br class="gmail_msg">
> precedent for future interaction on both sides. The google document was<br class="gmail_msg">
> taken private so I could add some specific responses to each EOI (answering<br class="gmail_msg">
> questions or highlighting areas of their EOI we appreciated).<br class="gmail_msg">
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> The board still has not gotten back to Marc - but there has been a positive<br class="gmail_msg">
> outcome of the question. Sponsorship (as seen on the email list is picking<br class="gmail_msg">
> up). And the board is taking the draft budget that was approved into a<br class="gmail_msg">
> final form. I suspect everyone involved is still apprehensive about the 50k<br class="gmail_msg">
> not to exceed limit placed on this activity - making communication<br class="gmail_msg">
> depressingly halting:<br class="gmail_msg">
> - We did not hit our go/no-go decision marker; perhaps we should arranged a<br class="gmail_msg">
> meeting with the board for next week if we do not get an email response<br class="gmail_msg">
> - SAC was not aware of an extra 8k being put aside for their participation<br class="gmail_msg">
> in this initiative; it is like they will be fine if the board uses this<br class="gmail_msg">
> budget to support the RFP process.<br class="gmail_msg">
> - Sponsorship is picking up (3.5k and counting) - but on a different time<br class="gmail_msg">
> frame than our RFP process<br class="gmail_msg">
> - Because the budget is still only publicly in draft form it is not clear<br class="gmail_msg">
> if we have access to 2016 budget to put towards this activity; we are not<br class="gmail_msg">
> the only committee suffering due to lack of clarity<br class="gmail_msg">
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> I suspect that while sponsorship may eventually cover the gap the board<br class="gmail_msg">
> will need to be comfortable backing this activity.<br class="gmail_msg">
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