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<div dir="ltr" class="">Jeffrey felt the same way, I still think we should target this one group of users. The other vendors do not have the market share to warrant a specific outreach effort.
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<div class="">We have limited resources we do not need to be fair.</div>
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<div class="">GISP does NOT only equal ESRI.  I don’t see any reason to include a single Commercial Vendor’s name without the full list of others in there as well.  The new Column Should be “Commercial GIS Professional”. and the existing switched to the more
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<div class="">If one names goes in, then there should be a list of them, no matter what the percentage is.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="">We can break that out, we had it as GIS Professional earlier - but I think we miss that 90% market share (and the important part of reaching out to ESRI users using language they are familiar with). Add a column for GIS professional
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="">After reading the Google sheet I think we miss a few audiences:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="">1. I'd extend the "Esri GIS Professional" to "GIS Professional" in general, for 2 reasons:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="">One reason is that there's more in life than ArcGIS and open source: think of Mapinfo, Smallworld, Geomedia and others (with by the way
 a very different range of companies and ecosystems behind them; Esri does both internationally and locally a great job in creating and maintaining their own, large ecosystem<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="">The other reason is that it's good to keep our FOSS4G users "within the family", keeping existing user informed on new exiting possibilities
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="">a. Geo-ICT professionals, with focus on the technical side.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="">Those beautiful people with a broad insight in both open source and proprietary software for geospatial, and who use their overwhelming
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