Hard to know; to act we would need a motion and we are still discussing options.<br><br>Guido does foss4g have any plans to issue USB sticks?<br><br>Cameron are you advising us to print USB sticks; or are you just describing their limitations so we are informed as to their appropriate use?<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:39 AM Guido Stein <<a href="mailto:gstein@appgeo.com">gstein@appgeo.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">So, does this mean anyone is makig a USB run or not?</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:18 PM Brian M Hamlin <<a href="mailto:maplabs@light42.com" target="_blank">maplabs@light42.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">So - USB Sticks<br>
<br>
TL;DR <br>
I am hesitant to recommend building Boot USBs at this time..<br>
It will take at least one test printing before committing to a run, if<br>
and when we do.<br>
<br>
We can print USBs, probably a majority of people who receive them will be able to boot a laptop,<br>
others will need to use an ISO in Virtual Box or similar. FYI<br>
-<br>
The USB Sticks format is not the same animal as the DVD was..<br>
We made many DVDs and handed them out, over several versions.. the<br>
process was reliable,<br>
the options clear and the pricing competitive,, We screen printed the<br>
DVDs, bought commodity covers,<br>
and the product could be built in a timely way by one of several vendors..<br>
<br>
The USB Sticks are not the same.. We have not made many runs of them..<br>
<br>
Technically, I am finding that there are at least two challenges..<br>
One is the UEFI-Boot and signed kernel,<br>
and that would be the same for a DVD format.. but the Second is .. that<br>
many hardware platforms now seem<br>
to be treating USB boot as a vector for attack.. The user may have to<br>
choose at the BOOT BIOS level<br>
to allow the booting, and even then it is not clear to me that all the<br>
details on boot are being made public.<br>
Low-cost windows laptops and also very expensive server motherboards<br>
seem to both be behaving this way.<br>
<br>
The Live has implemented a proces that should allow the UEFI-Boot<br>
with a signed kernel to work.. but it is hard<br>
to get right.. the DVD in later versions suffered from this also..<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Fri, 02 Jun 2017 18:31:42 0000, Guido Stein <<a href="mailto:gstein@appgeo.com" target="_blank">gstein@appgeo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
I believe that there is budget for the sticks in Boston, but I think<br>
that is tied to the workshop folks only currently. <br>
That all said, if you could price this out, I will figure out how to help.<br>
<br>
-Guido<br>
<br>
On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:03 PM Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
If we did a large "printing run" in north america for foss4g and foss4g<br>
europe I could bring a batch to foss4g europe.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Jody Garnett<br>
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On 1 June 2017 at 13:58, Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
I'm looping in the OSGeo-Live list.<br>
<br>
In particular, I suspect Brian Hamlin will have some valuable advice on<br>
creating OSGeo-Live USBs as he has gone through this process a few<br>
times.<br>
<br>
Brian might even be able to recommend a company to create the USBs for you.<br>
<br>
Cheers, Cameron<br>
<br>
On 2/6/17 4:39 am, Fenoy Gerald wrote:<br>
<br>
Jody,<br>
we shall be able to afford the empty USB Stick.<br>
<br>
Gérald Fenoy<br>
<a href="mailto:gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr" target="_blank">gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr</a><br>
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Le 1 juin 2017 à 20:41, Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br>
<br>
Yeah that is like 1/2 our marketing budget for the year; and we are<br>
going to have a lot of expenses ordering new booth stuff.<br>
<br>
Is there a chance the conference registration fee can cover USB stick<br>
purchase?<br>
<br>
--<br>
Jody Garnett<br>
<br>
On 1 June 2017 at 04:37, Fenoy Gerald <<a href="mailto:gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr" target="_blank">gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr</a>> wrote:<br>
Dear Jody,<br>
thanks a lot for your answer.<br>
<br>
I have contacted a french company that provide usb stick printing.<br>
Their proposal is like this: for 300 USB sticks it will cost almost<br>
2000 € when for 400 the cost will go to 2600€.<br>
<br>
Nevertheless, I am now wondering. Indeed, from what I can remember,<br>
during the FOSS4G in Bonn there was an OSGeo Booth that was providing<br>
the OSGeoLiveDVD USB sticks. This may be the best option. Indeed, in<br>
case OSGeo is coming to the FOSS4G-Europe with OSGeoLive USB sticks, it<br>
means that we may be able to manage the usb print on our own budget as<br>
it may cost less (as the usb stick size will decrease and the file to<br>
put on the usb stick will be easier to setup, there is no double<br>
partition anymore and so on, still I think that lower than 8go usb<br>
stick won’t be a real use to anybody).<br>
<br>
I think that it would be just perfect if OSGeo can have a booth at the<br>
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 for distributing the OSGeoLive USB stick.<br>
<br>
Gérald Fenoy<br>
<a href="mailto:gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr" target="_blank">gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr</a><br>
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair<br>
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Le 19 mai 2017 à 17:52, Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br>
<br>
Gérald:<br>
<br>
To proceed we would need to get a better idea of costs involved. I know<br>
you have a hard cap on attendees of 400 - how many sticks would you be<br>
printing and do you have a quote we can work from?<br>
<br>
Are we sharing this cost with the LOC? OSGeo live is bootable so it<br>
cannot really be used to easily give people a copy of the event program<br>
(unless you make a partition I guess).<br>
<br>
I would like to considers USB sticks as part of our expense in<br>
attending the event - while they are a good tool they are only one of<br>
the tools available.<br>
--<br>
Jody<br>
<br>
On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 3:10 AM Fenoy Gerald <<a href="mailto:gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr" target="_blank">gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr</a>> wrote:<br>
Dear marketing committee,<br>
I would like to know if it is possible for the FOSS4G-Europe 2017 LOC<br>
to ask the OSGeo marketing committee for some fund to handle the USB<br>
stick production to give to every attendees.<br>
<br>
The USB stick should contains OSGeoLive and the program associated with<br>
the event. The USB Sticks will then be used during the workshops,<br>
mainly for those that ask attendees to come with their own computer but<br>
it may also be used in other workshops also.<br>
<br>
I hope to hear back from you.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Gérald Fenoy<br>
<a href="mailto:gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr" target="_blank">gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr</a><br>
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair<br>
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