<div><div dir="auto">I am going to have a hard time letting go of project, not sure I have the energy to change this far in.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I do not find the term software used on its own often much recently. I would of expected "technology" but perhaps that is me.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It is tricky as the unit of an open source is a project (not just the software) and I wonder if we should use this as a teaching moment.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If I we to keep "project" we would need a sentence like: Open source projects are a team effort producing geospatial technology. </div><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 3:30 AM Steven Feldman <<a href="mailto:shfeldman@gmail.com">shfeldman@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">My 1st thoughts on ‘projects’ and ‘software' are to look at definitions:<div><br></div><div><b>Project</b>:</div><div><div style="margin:0.5em 0px;line-height:inherit;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif">"In contemporary <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_sector" title="Business sector" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none" target="_blank">business</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science" title="Science" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none" target="_blank">science</a>, a <b>project</b> is an individual or collaborative enterprise, possibly involving research or design, that is carefully <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan" title="Plan" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none" target="_blank">planned</a>, usually by a project team, to achieve a particular aim.<sup id="m_-1260065351138410743cite_ref-1" class="m_-1260065351138410743reference" style="line-height:1;unicode-bidi:-webkit-isolate;white-space:nowrap"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project#cite_note-1" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">[1]</a></sup></div><div style="margin:0.5em 0px;line-height:inherit;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif">A project may also be a set of interrelated tasks to be executed over a fixed period and within certain cost and other limitations.<sup id="m_-1260065351138410743cite_ref-2" class="m_-1260065351138410743reference" style="line-height:1;unicode-bidi:-webkit-isolate;white-space:nowrap"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project#cite_note-2" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">[2]</a></sup></div><div style="margin:0.5em 0px;line-height:inherit;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif">It may be a temporary (rather than permanent) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_system" title="Social system" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">social systems</a> as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_systems" title="Work systems" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">work systems</a> that is constituted by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team" title="Team" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">teams</a> within or across organizations to accomplish particular <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Task_(project_management)" title="Task (project management)" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">tasks</a> under time constraints.<sup id="m_-1260065351138410743cite_ref-3" class="m_-1260065351138410743reference" style="line-height:1;unicode-bidi:-webkit-isolate;white-space:nowrap"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project#cite_note-3" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">[3]</a></sup> A project may be a part of a wider <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programme_management" class="m_-1260065351138410743mw-redirect" title="Programme management" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">programme management</a>” <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project</a></div><div style="margin:0.5em 0px;line-height:inherit;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif"><br></div><div style="margin:0.5em 0px;line-height:inherit;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif"><b>Software</b>:</div><div style="margin:0.5em 0px;line-height:inherit"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif">"Computer software</b><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">, or simply </span><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif">software</b><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">, is a part of a </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_system" class="m_-1260065351138410743mw-redirect" title="Computer system" style="color:rgb(11,0,128);font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">computer system</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> that consists of </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_(computing)" title="Data (computing)" style="color:rgb(11,0,128);font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">data</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> or computer instructions, in contrast to the </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_hardware" title="Computer hardware" style="color:rgb(11,0,128);font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">physical hardware</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> from which the system is built. In </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_science" title="Computer science" style="color:rgb(11,0,128);font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">computer science</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> and </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_engineering" title="Software engineering" style="color:rgb(11,0,128);font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">software engineering</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">, computer software is all </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information" title="Information" style="color:rgb(11,0,128);font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">information</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> processed by </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_system" class="m_-1260065351138410743mw-redirect" title="Computer system" style="color:rgb(11,0,128);font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">computer systems</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">, </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_program" title="Computer program" style="color:rgb(11,0,128);font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">programs</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> and data. Computer software includes </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_program" title="Computer program" style="color:rgb(11,0,128);font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">computer programs</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">, </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_(computing)" title="Library (computing)" style="color:rgb(11,0,128);font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">libraries</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> and related non-executable </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_(computing)" title="Data (computing)" style="color:rgb(11,0,128);font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">data</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">, such as </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_documentation" title="Software documentation" style="color:rgb(11,0,128);font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">online documentation</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> or </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_media" title="Digital media" style="color:rgb(11,0,128);font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">digital media</a><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font color="#222222" face="sans-serif">.<span style="font-size:14px">” </span></font></span><font color="#222222" face="sans-serif"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software</a></font></div><div style="margin:0.5em 0px;line-height:inherit"><br></div><div style="margin:0.5em 0px;line-height:inherit"><font color="#222222" face="sans-serif">My interpretation: </font></div><div style="margin:0.5em 0px;line-height:inherit"><font color="#222222" face="sans-serif">Each different application e.g. QGIS Desktop, QGIS server is ‘software’ (or we could alternatively use ‘application’ or 'program')</font></div><div style="margin:0.5em 0px;line-height:inherit"><font color="#222222" face="sans-serif">The QGIS Project is the umbrella organisation/collaboration/social construct/enterprise that encompasses and coordinates the individual software/applications/programs</font></div><div style="margin:0.5em 0px;line-height:inherit"><font color="#222222" face="sans-serif">I think the important thing for us as a marketing group is to consider what these terms mean to potential users rather than how we use them internally (for our community ‘project' can be interchangeable with ‘software’).</font></div><div style="margin:0.5em 0px;line-height:inherit;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif"><br></div><div>
<span class="m_-1260065351138410743Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;line-height:normal;border-spacing:0px">______</span></div></div></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div><span class="m_-1260065351138410743Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;line-height:normal;border-spacing:0px"><br>Steven<br><br></span></div></div></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>
<br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 18 Sep 2017, at 18:46, Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_-1260065351138410743Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div>The choose-a-project wizard is now working, we had to cut down some of the tags last week and change how the pages were done to make it happen.<div><br></div><div>This touches on a conversation with Steve Feldman from the code sprint. As part of the focus exercise the <a href="http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/" target="_blank">home page</a> was changed to says "Choose your software" which then links to "choose-a-project". </div><div><br></div><div><div>It does bring up two interesting cases:</div><div><br></div><div>1) <a href="http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/projects/qgis/" target="_blank">http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/projects/qgis/</a> </div><div><br></div><div>QGIS - has several software projects now under one banner.</div><div><br></div><div>* QGIS Desktop</div><div>* QGIS Server</div><div>* more?</div><div><br></div><div>This is kind of messing with the system (and resulting in oddities like QGIS being listed as a cloud processing service, I assume QGIS server could run in the cloud and qgis desktop offers processing).</div><div><br></div><div>2) <a href="http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/projects/gvsig/" target="_blank">http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/projects/gvsig/</a></div><div><br></div><div>Same thing, there are now multiple gvSig software projects:</div><div>- gvSIG Desktop</div><div>- gvNIX</div><div>- gvSIG Mobile</div><div>- i3Geo</div><div><br></div><div>Recommendation for the beta website:</div><div><br></div><div><div>- Making the QGIS Association page under Partners, linking to individual pages for QGIS and QGIS Server project pages.</div><div>- Makin the gvSIG Association link to the individual software project pages for gvSIG Desktop, gvNIX, gvSIG  Mobile, i3Geo.</div></div><div><div><div class="m_-1260065351138410743gmail_signature"><div><div><div><div>--</div><div>Jody Garnett</div></div></div></div></div></div>
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