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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Cameron, Hi Guido, Dear List,<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">thanks for welcoming me and the direct
engage.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Sure, the silence on the list, as you
described Guido, isn't an indicator for engagement.<br>
I was honestly impressed in Bucharest and had the chance to meet
at least a few of you in person, <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">and exchanged the one or other word,
sentence, joke or vision ;)<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Nice direct approach to the pain
points, Cameron, I like it.</div>
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<div>> So here is the challenge you face</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Honestly, and not because of playing
low, but I don't have the silver bullet or the "right way".</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">You ladies&gents have already done
a lot, tried different approaches, probably had your lesson
learned, and all this I'm missing out.</div>
<p>Anyway, using the opportunity given, I would like to contribute:</p>
<p>You asked about "sustainability" and "adding value". Value comes
with sustainability and thus with a plan, strategic directions and
operational execution.<br>
Especially the smallest budget, needs clear KPI's. Hm... and most
likely you will always need to have some financial input to make
it happen.<br>
Even you engage the community, incentives, no matter which colour
are what is driving us and for some activities you just need to
pay. </p>
<p>Ya, ya, general blah-blah ;)</p>
<p>If you allow, I connect the string from us to a start-up, at
least in regards to some aspects (resource issues [people, money],
lots of tasks - mostly more important, marketing - "well ya".<br>
I attach a preso I held recently. I think there are some relevant
points we could look into.<br>
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<p>With an "outside" mind, not knowing anything, right... I would
suggest focusing on 3 main pillars; community, content, partners.
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Just to mention some examples.<br>
There is already a great community, within we have for sure hidden
contributors. Connect journalists with those oodles that engineer,
code and know all about GIS.<br>
Connect the community where ever they are, offline or online, e.g.
telegram groups, instagram, etc.<br>
If I understood correct Astrid got CCC media for Bucharest - great
take! There are other organizations sharing certain our values
that can be joined...</p>
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Got late already.</p>
<p>Catch up soon,<br>
Jan<br>
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<p>On 05/09/2019 01:24, Cameron Shorter wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Welcome Jan,
<div>OSGeo needs people like you. We have oodles of volunteer
software engineers and GIS professionals, but very few people
with a marketing background who have stayed around.</div>
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<div>So here is the challenge you face:</div>
<div>What do you think should and can be done which:</div>
<div>* Is sustainable with almost no long term financial input?</div>
<div>* With very few marketing volunteers (unless you recruit
them yourself)?</div>
<div>* Adds value?</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 3 Sep 2019 at 22:34,
Guido Stein <<a href="mailto:guido@guidostein.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">guido@guidostein.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Hi Jan,
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<div dir="auto">Thank you for your kind offer. I am sure we
can benefit from your support.</div>
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<div dir="auto">The marketing group is a little quiet at the
moment, but there are many dedicated folks participating
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 2, 2019, 5:13
PM Jan Keil <<a href="mailto:keil@osua.info"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">keil@osua.info</a>>
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Dear OSgeo marketing
team,<br>
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I would like to use this chance and introduce myself.<br>
My name is Jan Keil, I have been at FOSS4G for the first
time recently<br>
in Bucharest.<br>
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I have a lot of interests, where geospatial is still only
a hobby. Will<br>
see what the future will bring.<br>
Some short overview of my business expertise you can find
in LinkedIn:<br>
<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jan-keil-2011a61/"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.linkedin.com/in/jan-keil-2011a61/</a>
(Please connect ;))<br>
My daily bread and butter I earn as a marketing executive.<br>
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Personally I am kinda extroverted, but still a calm
fellow. I am good at<br>
listening to people and have a good sense of mediating
opposition parties.<br>
I am happily married, father of 2 (soon plus 1) kids and
we are living<br>
in Kyiv, Ukraine.<br>
<br>
In my youth, I had the luck to be a part of the German
Chaos Computer<br>
Club and founding member of the local CCC community
"entropia" in<br>
Karlsruhe.<br>
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(spoiler alarm)<br>
I would like to join you, let's say, because of the bigger
picture.<br>
After years of pure "profit maximization for the sake of
the<br>
shareholders" I got more mature, went through different
challenges and<br>
adjusted my inner world view towards "sharing means
caring".<br>
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This said, I would like to support your marketing
activities and are<br>
open-minded to whatever comes up.<br>
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All the best,<br>
Jan<br>
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