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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hello Dawson,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Yes, Autocad Map has been using CsMap for more than ten years<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In Map 2009, a complete public API was created<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The API is open source and part of the MapGuide project.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>All the interfaces are prefixed MgCoordinateSystem and are
located here:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://svn.osgeo.org/mapguide/trunk/MgDev/Common/Geometry/CoordinateSystem/">http://svn.osgeo.org/mapguide/trunk/MgDev/Common/Geometry/CoordinateSystem/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>This is for the C++ API<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>That API is also exposed in Map as other formats like C# .Net
for instance<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hugues<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Dawson Bunn
[mailto:dawson.bunn@btinternet.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 04, 2009 2:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hugues Wisniewski; Dawson Bunn; metacrs@lists.osgeo.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [MetaCRS] Reducing the Dictionaries directory size<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Hi Hugues,<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for you notes, I will try and reduce the size down in
due course.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>The size of 27MB is from Bentley in MicroStation V8i; I have
not checked with them to see what they have done but I do have a copy of their
dictionaries directory as I have V8i installed. I was hoping to point my code
to their directory!<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>As you work for Autodesk, can you confirm if MAP 3D 2010 or
2009&nbsp;is using CS-MAP, I know there is a new Geo spatial API but I can't
seem to find which software its using.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Dawson<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Hugues Wisniewski
&lt;hugues.wisniewski@autodesk.com&gt;<br>
<b>To:</b> Dawson Bunn &lt;MetaCRS@cadology.com&gt;;
&quot;metacrs@lists.osgeo.org&quot; &lt;metacrs@lists.osgeo.org&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 4 May, 2009 6:41:28 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [MetaCRS] Reducing the Dictionaries directory size</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hello Dawson,</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>&gt;</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>
I see that other who use CS-MAP have reduced this down to 27MB</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Who
are these others?</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Is
this install for your personal or professional use? Or to have it posted on
osgeo?</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I’d
say that all the dictionary files are needed and that is why the size is so big</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Now
in the dictionary files the biggest chunk of the data are used by the grid
files</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The
grid files are made available to avoid having the users running after them on
the various governments’ websites</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>What
is absolutely need are the dictionary files:</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Category.csd</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Coordsys.csd</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Datums.csd</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Elipsoid.csd</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Then, the multiple regression files used by the MRT datums,
these are all the *.mrt files</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If you want to avoid the grid files you’d have to edit the *.gdc
files and comment out the grid files they point to, so the *.gdc files are
needed too</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>There might be a few grid files that are not referred to by any
gdc file, meaning their name is hardcoded inside the source code, making those
grid files required.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Those must be:</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>http://svn.osgeo.org/metacrs/csmap/trunk/CsMapDev/Dictionaries/OSTN02.txt</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://svn.osgeo.org/metacrs/csmap/trunk/CsMapDev/Dictionaries/OSTN97.TXT"
target="_blank">http://svn.osgeo.org/metacrs/csmap/trunk/CsMapDev/Dictionaries/OSTN97.TXT</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hugues</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
metacrs-bounces@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:metacrs-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Dawson Bunn<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 27, 2009 2:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> metacrs@lists.osgeo.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [MetaCRS] Reducing the Dictionaries directory size</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I've
started to use CS-MAP API and it's working well.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
want to build an install routine but the current size of the Dictionaries
directory is ~423MB. I see that other who use CS-MAP have reduced this down to
27MB; quite a saving.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Can
anyone please tell me what I can do to reduce the size of this directory?</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>TIA,</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Dawso</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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