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On 2015/11/24 4:03, Helena Mitasova wrote:<br>
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- I am very much in support of your ideas. It may be useful to post this
vision on the geo4all and osgeo discuss list. I am sure there will be
volunteers willing to help out or at least encourage contributions and
reviews. This would also help to coordinate with other publishing ideas
such as the one proposed by Charlie focusing on peer reviewed educational
material (which would be interesting niche that nobody has done so far - we
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+1 from my side too. Perhaps it could be better to summarize this
thread as a wiki-page and <br>
post the links to the OSGeo-Discuss and Geo4All MLs for others to
add their suggestions and views.<br>
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We could consider have a Editor-in Chief and a associate editors for<br>
New-Letter section, OSGeo Journal Academic Track Issue and
Educational Material<br>
(including conference workshop material). I would also suggest that
we have a Editorial <br>
Board and request members who are regularly associated with
organization of Academic Track <br>
at FOSS4G conferences to be members and help arrange review of
papers etc.. <br>
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OSGeo Journal could be one of the options (not necessarily the
default, we could leave that<br>
to the Academic Chairs at FOSS4G conferences to decide) for
publication of Academic Track <br>
full papers and the authors could be provided with an option to
choose if they prefer. Enhancing <br>
the academic merit of OSGeo Journal through listing in indexing
services etc. would require efforts <br>
that needed to be pursued.<br>
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I am +1 for making it mandatory for academic track presenters to
submit papers that could be<br>
published as and OSGeo Journal's Academic Track Proceedings.
Proceeding papers are <br>
also helpful in selecting papers for subsequent Journal issue as
they provide more details of <br>
the work done as compared to short abstracts.<br>
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We could also tap in to our regional conferences to publish special
issues of papers presented<br>
there.<br>
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Best<br>
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Venka<br>
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Helena
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Christian Willmes <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:c.willmes@uni-koeln.de"><c.willmes@uni-koeln.de></a>
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<pre wrap="">Dear Dimitris,
its great to hear, that you are also interested in working on the OSGeo
Journal.
Regarding your proposal and ideas, I see the OSGeo Journal more as an
academic journal, just look at the history of published issues [1]. Five
academic tracks proceedings, I did not counted the single academic papers,
but it will amount to 30-40 papers I think.
I am in favour to also have community reports, if they are provided (what
was not abundantly the case in the past either).
But here is my analysis of and vision for the Journal.
First, the Journal has failed to build enough academic merit, that
researchers seriously consider to submit their work to the Journal.
Second, the articles about community activities need to be published and
circulated within short time spans after that activity/event, thus a longer
editing and publication process as inevitable for a peer-reviewed Journal
is not suitable. Thus, these posts are ending up on blogs and also on the
wiki. And I actually think, that this is the better forum for this kind of
content, including lots of photos, web links and also videos, etc..
So, I would suggest to keep the journal more in an academic direction, and
try to build merit, so that researchers start to reconsider submitting to
the OSGeo journal. One big point in this is, that the Journal should be the
default publication for FOSS4G academic track contributions. Of course,
attracting academics with the possibility of publications in a higher
ranking journal like Transactions in GIS in the past, for some few best
submissions each year should be also the case in the future as a major
attractor for academics. This practice would also yield more submissions to
be published in the OSGeo Journal.
I think the OSGeo Journal can and should take a niche, that is not really
occupied in the Journal landscape yet. That is, articles presenting OSGeo
Projects, including software architecture, licensing model, road maps,
overview of dev community, etc. and of course case studies that focus on
the application of OSGeo projects in education, in public sector, for
development work, in industry etc.. These papers do not have to meet the
highest academic standards, they primarily have the function to highlight
OSGeo projects and to provide citable works on these OSGeo Projects. The
submission of papers should be generally open to everyone, no prerequisites
(like acad. degrees or something) whatsoever.
Of course, a section on reposts from events etc. can and should also be
maintained. I would suggest that we have at first one Issue per year
(additionally to the FOSS4G academic track) that is open from the beginning
of a year to the end, and adds submissions, as soon as they are reviewed
and edited to this issue. Its no problem if there are at first very few
papers in an issue, it is more important, that we start to publish again.
We should keep it as simple as possible, not overarching criteria, such as
themes etc.. The only important criteria should be, that it has something
to do with OSGeo. Quality and validity is checked and if needed improved
during the review process.
So, I would like to volunteer for a Journal in that direction.
I am open to other directions, but prefer the above depicted agenda.
Regards,
Christian
[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://journal.osgeo.org/index.php/journal">https://journal.osgeo.org/index.php/journal</a>
Am 21.11.2015 um 10:08 schrieb Dimitris Kotzinos:
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<pre wrap="">Dear all,
I was involved in the past in the OSGEO Journal and even worked as
section editor at times.
One problem that the journal has and will keep having is that it is
based strictly in volunteer time which is in many cases unpredictable
and usually not constant. The only solution I have seen in any open
source project around this, is to build a team of volunteers so that the
work is shared and to be flexible around the deadlines.
So if we are some I would also offer to be involved into the process. I
think that for me it would be better to be involved in organizing the
process, making the calls and do less on the technical work (which I see
that Christian and Eli might like more). But of course 3 people are not
enough to make sure that we can sustain the Journal publication in a
timely manner.
Given that I am also reiterating a proposal submitted back in 2012 [1]
but did not receive much attention or reaction at that moment. There I
share some ideas of how to share responsibilities and how to structure
the journal. If you want we can use this as a starting point for the
discussion and feel free to edit along!
Note also that this would be kept as a foundation Journal and not a
scientific journal where we focus on activities within the foundation,
the local/regional chapters and the various kinds of events and their
results. We can further discuss if we would like to create an additional
Academic/Scientific Journal with the colleagues who are involved in the
Geo4All activity.
Finally, thanks to Landon for pushing the carriage for many years; the
editor's job is quite lonely and sometimes also frustrating! :)
My 2c,
Dimitris
[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/A_proposal_for_the_OSGeo_Journal">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/A_proposal_for_the_OSGeo_Journal</a>
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