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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Thanks for the clarification Alex.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">SO the only thing that needs altering from the OO perspective is that for this year, we need to alter the budget to release the hwole of the Good Mojo ( and for the future, always make the lot available).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">If read this way, I will vote +1. I will wait for Adam’s clarification, then vote.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Then, we still need the budget form the Conference… That is the real road block. I presume the organisers know about this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Martin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Alex Leith <alexgleith@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, 7 October 2020 at 11:41 am<br>
<b>To: </b>Martin Tomko <tomkom@unimelb.edu.au><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Emma Hain <emmahain@gmail.com>, "oceania-board@lists.osgeo.org" <oceania-board@lists.osgeo.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Oceania-Board] motions: let F4G Oceania 2020 access all Good Mojo funds<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I interpreted it more simply as:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">"Let's increase the OO budget line for good mojo from $1,000 to ~$8,000"<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don't have an issue with this, as it doesn't mean it will be spent, just that we're happy to spend it all.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But Adam may be able to clarify his intent.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">To be clear, we have always separately accounted for our conference, our main organisation and good mojo. Good mojo money is able to be reconciled and accounted for on it's own, and really, the $8 k isn't a limit on it, because we can always
top it up from our main OO funds.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Plus, really, if we're planning on spending a lot of money on good mojo, we should be asking OSGeo international for some too... but historically it's been the conference folks who have done this.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 at 11:33, Martin Tomko <<a href="mailto:tomkom@unimelb.edu.au">tomkom@unimelb.edu.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB">I am still undecided, as it pertains to the wording ( and my issues are somewhat similar to Greg’s, but not identical).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB">I believe that the motion, possibly rephrased, should be understood as</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB">(1) :”Remove Good mojo funds from annual budget. All good mojo funds should be always available for community spending, possibly in the full.”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB">This would mean that the Good Mojo funds will never be spend on running costs of the organisation. Fair enough, and we always managed them this way.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB">Yet, I do not think this is the same as disbursing them without a plan – a costed request, or at least a scope. This, in the current situation, should be based
on the FOSS4G budget, that is still not present. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB">I would read the motion from Adam as (1). Then, the consequence is:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">OO needs to get a new budget proposal, and approve it quickly. We will be in a situation of an invalid annual budget.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="gmail-m-5995216999688408874msolistparagraph" style="mso-list:l5 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN-GB">FOSS4G still needs to request these funds, and have a plan for disbursement ( as Greg noted – how much, how the process will be done, geographic equity, etc). Something not onerous, but just an idea.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB">Can we agree on interpretation of (1)? If so, I will then vote on it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB">Martin</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Oceania-Board <<a href="mailto:oceania-board-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">oceania-board-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>> on behalf of Alex Leith <<a href="mailto:alexgleith@gmail.com" target="_blank">alexgleith@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, 7 October 2020 at 10:34 am<br>
<b>To: </b>Emma Hain <<a href="mailto:emmahain@gmail.com" target="_blank">emmahain@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:oceania-board@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">oceania-board@lists.osgeo.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:oceania-board@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">oceania-board@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Oceania-Board] motions: let F4G Oceania 2020 access all Good Mojo funds</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I've voted +1.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I think we really should do something to communicate that we have budget available for this and our other community support lines, and provide information on how people can apply
for funding.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 at 10:07, Emma Hain <<a href="mailto:emmahain@gmail.com" target="_blank">emmahain@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Sorry all - I have had the flu - back on board. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">So before I vote, I just need some clarification.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Is/Are/Will Good Mojo:<o:p></o:p></p>
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FOSS4G Oceania Conference only, or <o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l7 level2 lfo3">
For all activities that fall under the OsGeo Oceania<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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Expenditure approvals from <o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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LOC, or<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l6 level2 lfo5">
OSGeo, or<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l6 level2 lfo5">
Both<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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Access to Account:<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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LOC (Jonah), or<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7">
OSGeo<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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Community Contributions be called for?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo8">
What activities do you forsee these to be spent on? Are there some categories here? As I would say getting catering I would have concerns about. However I would likely support technical support in hiring equipment such as large monitors for viewing, proping
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks for your time. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 4:23 AM Adam Steer <<a href="mailto:adam.d.steer@gmail.com" target="_blank">adam.d.steer@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">Ok motion sent to loomio. Voting closes in 7 days...<br>
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