<div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">Hei Martin, <div dir="auto"><br></div><div>Thanks for pulling this out into the general discussion list. Perhaps a good time to encourage anyone interested in governance of OSGeo Oceania to subscribe to the public board list: <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/oceania-board">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/oceania-board</a></div><div><br></div><div>About endorsement, I don't see endorsement of companies or services as an encouraging direction for OO or FOSS4G SotM Oceania.<br><br></div><div>Sponsorship benefits (display of logo etc) should not be seen as endorsement, perhaps this should be explicit in sponsorship agreements if it is not already. <br><br></div><div>I think it's fine for both OO and FOSS4G SotM Oceania to seek sponsorship - otherwise both don't survive. In 2018 we discussed the ethics of sponsorship, for example 'if company X wants to sponsor but is funded by the arbitrary detention of refugees, should we take their money?'.<br><br></div><div>There was no good answer - the sponsorship agreement simply reflected some values that we expected to see upheld, and sponsors had the opportunity then to walk away if they felt they could not abide by those. Maybe this process could be stronger / better defined - I know for me I would be disappointed to see the logo of certain organisations flying high at an OO (or OSGeo more broadly) event, because their actions are clearly dissonant to the values of an open and inclusive community.<br><br></div><div>It was good to see what appeared to be a consensus that OO should not get involved in endorsement [1], and I hope the same is true for FOSS4G SotM Oceania.<br><br></div><div>With care from the high arctic,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Adam</div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/oceania-board/2022-February/thread.html">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/oceania-board/2022-February/thread.html</a></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 7, 2022, 23:54 Martin Tomko <<a href="mailto:tomkom@unimelb.edu.au" target="_blank">tomkom@unimelb.edu.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">This is a very interesting and relevant discussion for the community ( I presume triggered by some ongoing board discussion). I am not sure why I am still on the Board mailing list, but as I am not a member of the board,
I should probably not respond here. Can I please ask we move this to the general list of the community, as this is an item of general interest? Cc-ing oceania@osgeo.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I believe there will be hot takes on this topic, and it would be preferrable to have a broad agreement in the community ( although maybe not consensus, at least a compromise).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 8 February 2022 at 9:44 am<br>
<b>To: </b>Edoardo Neerhut <<a href="mailto:eneerhut@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">eneerhut@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>OSGeo Oceania Board <<a href="mailto:oceania-board@lists.osgeo.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">oceania-board@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Oceania-Board] Endorsement by OSGeo Oceania<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I disagree that OO can't seek sponsorship. I see this as in the community interest. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My position on endorsement of commercial (or free) services is that OSGeo Oceania doesn't do it...at all. We financially support the Oceania community's grass-roots initiatives (mainly events), and OSGeo's initiatives, but we don't endorse
commercial service providers. One of the grass-roots initiatives OSGeo Oceania supports is the FOSS4G SotM Oceania Conference, which is administered by a separate committee: that group seeks sponsors and endorses service providers, but OSGeo Oceania doesn't.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is that a controversial position? Should OSGeo Oceania endorse service providers?<u></u><u></u></p>
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