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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’ve a few comments on the Strategic
Investment in Geonetwork Open Source(draft paper) document:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<ul style='margin-top:0pt' type=disc>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Much
of the document is an outline of what constitutes appropriate software
project management. In that regard it is a useful guide when assessing
investments, activities and teams for the uninitiated<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>GeoNetwork
stakeholders list is useful in understanding some of the interactions
occurring. Interestingly though it does not mention the GeoNetwork Project
Steering Committee? (There is also an error in the CSIRO section, the
words for the Business Drivers are Rob Woodcock’s (mine) not Rob
Atkinson’s - just don’t want Rob A to be blamed!)<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The
Community Liaison Officer<b><span style='font-weight:bold'> </span></b>would
significantly assist development contributions (from any participant) in
better informing stakeholders and in prioritising work (informed decision
making) across those organisations that choose to participate through this
coordination process – noting of course that this coordination
process is not the GeoNetwork one (that isn’t necessarily a bad
thing as the objective is to better coordinate ANZLIC investments, not
take over GeoNetwork)<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>It
is entirely possible, potentially useful, for ANZLIC sponsors to pool their
resources and form a critical mass development team with appropriate
project management in order to further their goals with GeoNetwork.
– this may in fact be all that the document is describing but it
isn’t clear to me that is the case, as my next point describes, and
if it is then how do other projects, like NCIRS SISS, interact given they
can directly assist the ANZLIC objectives if properly informed?<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I’m
concerned that the document confuses the multiple community objectives
that make up “GeoNetwork” development, bundling them into a
single geonetwork activity. I believe it is important that this be
understood more clearly as it impacts stakeholder expectations – for
example, expecting a production grade outcome from a project contribution
that, whilst adding the desired feature, is only resourced and intended to
add a demonstration feature. More over, I’m concerned that this
confusion leads to a proposition that “developers can be pooled
together under a common project and project manager but still answerable
to their respective organisations”. Whilst that may be possible
under a secondment style arrangement for resources the ANZLIC sponsors
control, that isn’t the type of situation that exists in many useful
cases. Groups like BlueNet previously and NCRIS SISS which are funded to
deliver to their stakeholders have project management and contractual
obligations – they can’t second staff to nor be answerable to
an Aust/NZ steering committee. Indeed, I can’t see those resources
being leveraged in a useful form if an external Project Manager attempts to
manage those projects, it may cause conflict. These project types, where
willing, can respond to a clear call for features or bug fixes etc and/or
allow their contributions to be leveraged elsewhere (where their
contractual terms permit and the communication of those development
priorities are clear). Indeed, many open source project operate
effectively on this principle. <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Achieving critical development mass,
particularly around quality issues and production releases, has been one of the
principle objectives of the NCIRS SISS project setup. It is unusual in that
regard because it isn’t focussed on building features for its
stakeholders but on tackling a “gap” in the current community
investments in the spatial services stack that is hampering deployment efforts
by multiple organisations (including some ANZLIC ones) that NCRIS would like to
see happen. The NCRIS SISS project stakeholders are in fact interested in
responding to a clear call for features and bug fixes!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The other main objective has been to work
towards a “customer” engagement model which provides a more
informed decision making process – the Community Liaison role suggested
is one such approach, especially when matched with an equivalent developer
liaison role so the “pair” can inform both up and down the communications
pipe. Ben Searle is on the NCRIS SISS Project Committee to assist in this
regards, though Ben is still keen to see this model improved further.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Rob<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Project Director – Auscope Grid<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
aust-nz-bounces@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:aust-nz-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Bruce.Bannerman@dpi.vic.gov.au<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 26 June 2008 1:57
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Aust-NZ OSGeo<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Aust-NZ] Re:
Strategic Investment in Geonetwork Open Source(draft paper)</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>IMO:</span></font> <br>
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<tt><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Cameron
Shorter <cameron.shorter@gmail.com> wrote on 26/06/2008 09:45:02 AM:</span></font></tt><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br>
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<br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">> ></font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">> > Perhaps we could put this into a wiki to
allow other members of the </font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">> > community to help develop it further.</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">> Yes, good idea. I planned originally to use a
wiki but migrated to word </font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">> as I find it easier to write in and collate
reviews. Once the document </font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">> has stablized and when I next have a spare
few hours I'll move it across </font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">> (in a week or 2).</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">> ></font></tt><br>
</span></font><br>
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<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>OK.</span></font>
<br>
<br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I
intend making some comments / additions. I'll use track changes within Word and
post my version of the document back to the OSGeo-AustNZ list so that we have
an audit trail and archive.</span></font> <br>
<br>
<tt><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Cheers.</span></font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Bruce
Bannerman</span></font></tt> <br>
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