Hi Yvonne,<br><br>Great to have you on the list!<br><br>Thanks for the offer re: future meetings. That is a good idea. If we get a few people doing that, we can spread the burden.<br><br>Your comments on presentation content make good sense.<br>
<br><br>All,<br><br>Keep the comments coming please.<br><br>Bruce<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Yvonne Thompson</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Yvonne.Thompson@esta.vic.gov.au">Yvonne.Thompson@esta.vic.gov.au</a>></span><br>
Date: Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:43 AM<br>Subject: RE: [Aust-NZ] Fwd: Where to now?<br>To: Bruce Bannerman <<a href="mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com">bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com</a>><br><br><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Re Meetings: Sorry to miss the last meetup,
but my schedule clashed unfortunately. Would willingly attend or host at my
workplace meetups/ discussions/ demos and also invite others. </span></font></p>
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</span></font></span></span></font>I agree with benefit of
demonstrating solutions to problems up to a point, but for some audiences<i><span style="font-style: italic;"> less is more:</span></i> easy to overly baffle or
confuse them to the point where NOTHING gets started (they might be impressed
but also overwhelmed but walk away because there is no small achievable thing
they can go away and do right away. </p>
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</span></font></span></span></font>So, in some cases it’s
better to pull the demo back a few notches, into some mundane data and very
simple hands on demos to show even non GIS people what they can already do
themselves. Why? For one thing, most still find all this vastly intimidating
and in many cases don’t want to hand control of their data and processes
to the GIS geeks, who they fear will then control the data and access.</p>
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their own data to do something with for the demo.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;" lang="EN-US">
<a href="mailto:aust-nz-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">aust-nz-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:aust-nz-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">aust-nz-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Bruce Bannerman<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 24 November 2009
1:47 PM<div class="im"><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:Aust-NZ@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Aust-NZ@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
</div><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Aust-NZ] Fwd: Where to
now?</span></font><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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We have around 120 members on the list.<br>
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I've sent this around again, because I'd like to hear some thoughts from some
of our other list members who normally passively receive email distributed to
the list.<br>
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OSGeo AustNZ is your community too.<br>
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What directions would you like to see OSGeo AustNZ go in?<br>
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Bruce<br>
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From: <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Bruce Bannerman</span></b> <<a href="mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com</a>><br>
Date: Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 5:20 PM<br>
Subject: Where to now?<br>
To: <a href="mailto:Aust-NZ@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Aust-NZ@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
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Now that FOSS4G-2009 is finished and has been well received, it may be time to
start thinking about which directions we want to take OSGeo-AustNZ.<br>
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There appears to be a definite desire for information and workshops on OSGeo
projects in our region.<br>
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Perhaps Shaun Kolomeitz and Simon Hope have hit on a good way of building the
Australian and New Zealand
communities by targeting local groups? However I feel we should keep the AustNZ
focus to keep the overall momentum going (as per Open Source Industry Australia).<br>
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Alternate between informal sessions at the pub and info sessions hosted by kind
benefactors?<br>
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Borrowing from a successful format that I saw in the early 1990's (G.T.), for
info sessions, it may be good to focus on demonstrating solutions to problems
and finishing with "oh and by the way, we used these OSGeo projects to do
this". This could be followed by dedicated "under to hood" [1]
sessions for more detail if required.<br>
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For 2010, a few of us have volunteered to help Ben Searle with Spatial@Gov. We
will probably have an OSGeo presence and workshops there.<br>
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Lets get some thoughts going...<br>
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On another note, at FOSS4G, Arnulf Christl suggested that we may wish to
consider running another regional FOSS4G event in two years time.<br>
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I canvased a few people at FOSS4G and believe that we'd get a few key
Developers / Vendors back here if we did.<br>
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I think that if we were to do this, running it in New Zealand this time would be
ideal.<br>
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Is there any interest in this? This could become a regular event if there is
sufficient interest.<br>
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Bruce<br>
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[1] I hope you don't mind my using the term Ian and Ben J</span></font></p>
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