<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">John Bryant</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:johnwbryant@gmail.com">johnwbryant@gmail.com</a>></span><br>Date: 28 November 2017 at 21:35<br>Subject: Re: FOSS4G-SOTM-ANZ Committee<br>To: Martin Tomko <<a href="mailto:tomkom@unimelb.edu.au">tomkom@unimelb.edu.au</a>>, "<a href="mailto:aust-nz@lists.osgeo.org">aust-nz@lists.osgeo.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:aust-nz@lists.osgeo.org">aust-nz@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>Cc: adam steer <<a href="mailto:adam.d.steer@gmail.com">adam.d.steer@gmail.com</a>>, Greg Lauer <<a href="mailto:gregory.lauer@gmail.com">gregory.lauer@gmail.com</a>>, Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>, David Dean <<a href="mailto:ddean@ieee.org">ddean@ieee.org</a>>, Keith Moss <<a href="mailto:keithamoss@gmail.com">keithamoss@gmail.com</a>>, Daniel Silk <<a href="mailto:dsilk@linz.govt.nz">dsilk@linz.govt.nz</a>>, Elise Mckenna <<a href="mailto:elise.s.mck@gmail.com">elise.s.mck@gmail.com</a>>, Tim Heuer <<a href="mailto:HeuerT@landcareresearch.co.nz">HeuerT@landcareresearch.co.nz</a>>, Edoardo Neerhut <<a href="mailto:ed@mapillary.com">ed@mapillary.com</a>>, Alex Leith <<a href="mailto:alexgleith@gmail.com">alexgleith@gmail.com</a>><br><br><br><div dir="ltr">Forwarding this thread to the aust-nz list as discussed.<div><br></div><div>From Greg Lauer:</div><span class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:12.8px">Deanna Hutchinson, CEO of GITA/SIBA is presenting at conference I am at. Should I reach out to her re sponsorship etc. There is also a few Geoscience Australia open data people here.</span></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>It's pretty early days, so hard to be too specific in those sponsorship conversations, but seems like we should be taking these opportunities to start spreading the word. I don't see any harm.</div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 28 November 2017 at 10:06, Martin Tomko <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tomkom@unimelb.edu.au" target="_blank">tomkom@unimelb.edu.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I am happy to help with the academic track + local arrangement if in Melb – that is about my capacity.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 28 November 2017 at 9:32 am<br>
<b>To: </b>Greg Lauer <<a href="mailto:gregory.lauer@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregory.lauer@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>John Bryant <<a href="mailto:johnwbryant@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnwbryant@gmail.com</a>>, Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>, David Dean <<a href="mailto:ddean@ieee.org" target="_blank">ddean@ieee.org</a>>, Keith Moss <<a href="mailto:keithamoss@gmail.com" target="_blank">keithamoss@gmail.com</a>>, Martin Tomko <<a href="mailto:tomkom@unimelb.edu.au" target="_blank">tomkom@unimelb.edu.au</a>>, Daniel Silk <<a href="mailto:dsilk@linz.govt.nz" target="_blank">dsilk@linz.govt.nz</a>>, Elise Mckenna <<a href="mailto:elise.s.mck@gmail.com" target="_blank">elise.s.mck@gmail.com</a>>,
Tim Heuer <<a href="mailto:HeuerT@landcareresearch.co.nz" target="_blank">HeuerT@landcareresearch.co.nz</a><wbr>>, Edoardo Neerhut <<a href="mailto:ed@mapillary.com" target="_blank">ed@mapillary.com</a>>, Alex Leith <<a href="mailto:alexgleith@gmail.com" target="_blank">alexgleith@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: FOSS4G-SOTM-ANZ Committee<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">looks my my reporting-to-austnz-list work is done ;)<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- reach out to GA == good. I have some contacts there too, feel free to collaborate on who to hit up.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- comms: please avoid filling osgeo aust-nz with +-1’s - just watched +-1 hell on osgeo discuss, not keen to see that repeated. Doodle polls with results published to list? Still open.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Happy to work on polls for mtng time/community preferences, if they’re still needing doing!<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">* Re communication channels. I suggest it is best to make use of a public archived forum for any decision making discussion (Hence sending this email to a public forum). I'm mildly in favour of our existing
OSGeo Aust-NZ email list, backed by an irc channel on freenode. Probably irc://</span><a href="http://freenode.net/#foss4g-austnz" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">freenode.net#foss4g-aust<wbr>nz</span></a><span style="font-size:9.5pt">.
It seems there is a preference for slack, and I'm ok with that. I suggest that decisions are backed up by the public email list. Ie, for any major decision send a MOTION:... to the email list, with a set period to respond (1 week usually, or 48 hours if urgent),
and get all committee members to vote: +1 +0 0 -0 -1. Adopt a process like: </span><a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Management" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">https://wiki.osgeo.org/w<wbr>iki/Live_GIS_Management</span></a><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p>I'm sending my response to the public <a href="mailto:aust-nz@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">
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<p>Cheers, Cameron<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I like John's comms strategy - as open as possible with ways to keep things focused when they need to be.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">And great to see all this interest! let's keep it going!<u></u><u></u></p>
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a shared folder here</a>. I understand if some folks aren't keen on Google Drive, so if there is a viable alternative let's have the discussion now. But having shared documentation will be valuable. (Note you need a Google account to access this, there are
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We can start adding to a calendar/list of other events that we need to plan around, and a planning timeline with some key milestones we need to reach. I've started a couple of very rudimentary documents along these lines, please feel free to edit as you see
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<p class="MsoNormal">Let's make some decisions about communication channels too. I like Slack, but can see the long term value created by having transparent, logged discussions too... one possible way to do this is by keeping Slack conversations informal, shifting
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<p class="MsoNormal">I love Slack and I'm a heavy user, but I wonder if the lack of message retention and lack of transparency make it problematic. I understand there is Slack/IRC integration available so maybe we can combine the best of both worlds. Happy
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<pre><span style="color:#888888">Technology Demystifier, Learnosity<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:#888888">M <a href="tel:+61%20419%20142%20254" target="_blank">+61 (0) 419 142 254</a><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
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<a href="tel:+61%20427%20091%20712" value="+61427091712" target="_blank">+61 427 091 712</a><br>
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