<div dir="ltr">Hi All<br><div><br></div><div>Perhaps free membership that requires an action each year to remain a member, even if it's clicking a link in an email or something trivial?</div><div><br></div><div>I'm not sure what the risk of being swamped by bad actors is... is it something that has happened to other OSGeo groups?</div><div><br></div><div>I think having elections as part of the AGM is a better idea. We can ensure that we have some kind of system enabled for remote access.</div><div><br></div><div>And I don't think we need a CRO for the elections, just a sound an equitable system that we're pretty good at pulling together usually.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 at 12:28, adam steer <<a href="mailto:adam.d.steer@gmail.com">adam.d.steer@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="arial, sans-serif">HI John</font></span><div dir="auto" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div dir="auto" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="arial, sans-serif">I also like the OSGeo process for charter members, and an ability to prune members with a clear minimum participation level, as in anyone who did note vote or return an apology is gone. Which might seem pretty harsh, but once a year reading some summaries and ticking a box is pretty low bandwidth.</font></div><div dir="auto" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div dir="auto" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="arial, sans-serif">We need to resolve paid membership first - the constitution is ok with either free or paid membership. I think the OSGeo system works in part because it's free. </font></div><div dir="auto" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><font color="#000000"><span>By contrast in OSMF, I just paid them money and I can vote. If I stop paying, I can’t vote anymore </span></font><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">- so it's a different model. And also ok.</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"> </span></font></div><div dir="auto" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="arial, sans-serif" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">I think the first (OSGeo) approach mitigates the risk of being overrun by interest groups. </font><font color="#000000" face="arial, sans-serif">If we want to mix that with paid membership, I think we will have to get people to nominate themselves as members - so that would end with money plus a ‘positive attributes’ qualifier being two bars to cross.</font></div><div dir="auto"><font color="#000000" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div dir="auto"><font color="#000000" face="arial, sans-serif">I think we need one, or the other - we can’t do both. I prefer membership remaining free (like OSGeo), with a clearer boundary around what the conditions are (less clear in OSGeo, much more clear for OSMF).</font></div><div dir="auto"><font color="#000000" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="arial, sans-serif">As OSGeo Oceania grows, it’s probably necessary to adjust the constitution to have a ’no veto’ approach to voting on board members and new members, rather than quotas or numbers. I wonder if that’s possible?</font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="arial, sans-serif">Sorry, bit of an essay - trying to unpack tangled thoughts.</font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="arial, sans-serif">Cheers</font></div></div></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_1343904615899934080gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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