<div dir="ltr">My only issue with another list is that I'm the only one who triages the spam, and it wears me down! haha <br><br>But hey, what's another list on the list ;-) </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 at 11:40, John Bryant <<a href="mailto:johnwbryant@gmail.com">johnwbryant@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I agree with the idea of separating "discussion about board business" from "general community discussion" in two separate public lists, to avoid overwhelming the community list. I suggest this list (oceania) be kept for community discussion - it was initially set up in January 2007 for this purpose [1], and it seems better to keep it that way for continuity.</div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/oceania/2007-January/000001.html" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/oceania/2007-January/000001.html</a></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 at 08:47, Martin Tomko <<a href="mailto:tomkom@unimelb.edu.au" target="_blank">tomkom@unimelb.edu.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I would add one more thing – I believe there should be a list for the general members discussion – possibly higher traffic, but no board decision making. The main reason to set a board list at that time was to clearly
differentiate business from chatter. I am aware that other means are also used ( Slack, which I am not really on), but maybe this third list would be useful. Many, myself included, would only subscribe to it as a digest, possibly weekly.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Thursday, 10 September 2020 at 9:20 am<br>
<b>To: </b>Greg Lauer <<a href="mailto:gregory.lauer@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregory.lauer@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [OSGeo Oceania] OSGeo Oceania Board Terms of Reference Update for Review<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For simplicity, I think we should keep the current lists and start the following behaviours:<u></u><u></u></p>
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All OO comms that are not related to private or otherwise confidential discussions, including Board comms, go to the oceania@ list<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">
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<p class="MsoNormal">If we want to clarify that the second list should be private, I think we can change it to oceania-board-private, but I don't really want to create another list... let's keep it as simple as possible!<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Trisha - can you better define 'Board discussions'? Is this <b>
all </b>communication between board members? Or those related to a particular decision making process?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If we are to replicate an OSgeo Board list then for it to be of any value Board and members should have read/write privileges whist community have read access only<u></u><u></u></p>
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Thanks - for a board 'general business list' I reckon the ideal is 'anyone can subscribe, but only specific people can post without moderation - and all archives are open'. Mailman has plenty of power to vary a subscribers posting power as needed. We can get
all these switches flicked on oceania-board easily, there's only a small task to audit the archives for anything which meets in-camera requirements.<br>
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A few OSGeo lists operate this way, including giving and taking power for unmoderated posting to individuals as required for specific discussions.<br>
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I think clear identification of the circumstances for in-camera discussion is great, thanks!<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you for your comments and it's great to see active discussion on the draft ToR v2.0. We can certainly make the requested modifications to the Board's communication processes and the ToR can be modified to reflect the changed practice. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So just to confirm that I understand the new process...<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The Oceania-board list is to be made public, that is open for all community members to subscribe to. Having the dedicated board list will make it easier to track and filter conversations in our inboxes.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A new list called Ocean-board-private will be used for these conversations, ensuring they can be archived. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We will list those circumstances in the ToR, so it is clear when the Oceania-board-private list can be used.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have created a V2.1 on google drive and modified to the Communication Section to reflect the new processes mentioned above. This is obviously still open for further suggestions and refinement of both the processes and wording.<u></u><u></u></p>
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