<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Thanks all for the
ongoing transparent communication. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">My interpretation
of the document was that it was asking for endorsement of the “Path Forward”
action items listed in the document and not any input with regard to the
catalysing incident. Perhaps just useful to point that out. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Personally,
endorsing the development of a Code of Conduct and restructuring things to be
more equitable are easy things for me to agree with. Although endorsing how
that is implemented should perhaps be a separate matter. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">As an org though I
can see how OSGeo Oceania signing a document that has ongoing edits could be
difficult. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">The actual form
also slightly confused me as it seemed like an endorsement of the
OSMF-Diversity and Inclusion Statement rather than the Call to Action itself. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I’ll also mention
that OSMF created a Diversity and Inclusion Special Committee ( <a href="https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Diversity_and_Inclusion_Special_Committee" style="color:blue">https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Diversity_and_Inclusion_Special_Committee</a>
) in January of this year. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">It was unclear to
me of the relationship between the Call to Action and the committee. Perhaps I
missed something though. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">The 10 December
update note in the document reads like the OSMF Board will continue to work
with signatories of the document to implement things. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">So perhaps OSGeo
Oceania signing that document is less important than a discussion and decision
on whether we wish (as an organisation) to be involved in the development of
the Code of Conduct? </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I’m happy to defer
to the board or an OSM SIG on that decision (with input from anyone of course)
and confident that they would represent us and continue to communicate back to
us on opportunities for input and discussion. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Erin.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">[Interpretation,
comments, opinions, foibles and failings are my own]</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br></p></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-AU"><div class="gmail-m_6033831254246359508WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span><br><br><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Oceania <<a href="mailto:oceania-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">oceania-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Edoardo Neerhut<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 11 December 2020 10:54<br>
<b>To:</b> Martin Tomko <<a href="mailto:tomkom@unimelb.edu.au" target="_blank">tomkom@unimelb.edu.au</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:oceania@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">oceania@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSGeo Oceania] OSM Community issue<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for initiating this Greg.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And thanks for making the point about the local chapter Martin. An action item I have over the next week is to do a better job communicating the connection between us and the OSMF and getting the community conversation going again on our
OSM. The SIG charter is one such example.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree we should have a voice on this topic as well as the local chapter of the OSMF. Whether Celine's proposal is the right format, I'm not sure.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">At a personal level, I signed just now because I agree that there is an underlying issue with diversity and inclusion in OpenStreetMap. I put the caveat that I am wary of signing a document that is still evolving and prescribing solutions
to hastily.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As an incoming board member, I am honestly quite confused as to whether we can/should list ourselves as a signatory. Fully open minded on this and looking forward to hearing all points of view.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 at 11:28, Martin Tomko <<a href="mailto:tomkom@unimelb.edu.au" target="_blank">tomkom@unimelb.edu.au</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Hi Bruce,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I fully accept your personal statement, just wanted to add one clarification: OSGEo Oceania is not a different community to OSM, and OSGEO Oceania IS the local
chapter of OSM. We are not “just” an OSGeo local chapter, but also serve the OSM community ( Hence, also the FOSS4G SOTM conference, and the nascent OSM SIG).</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">As such, I believe we have a stake, should have a voice, and help steer the OSM community in the direction we – the Oceania part of this community, desire it
to move.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Martin</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Oceania <<a href="mailto:oceania-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">oceania-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, 11 December 2020 at 10:57 am<br>
<b>To: </b>Greg Lauer <<a href="mailto:gregory.lauer@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregory.lauer@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:oceania@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">oceania@lists.osgeo.org</a> <<a href="mailto:oceania@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">oceania@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [OSGeo Oceania] OSM Community issue</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Greg,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Firstly, thank you for bouncing this issue by our community in the first instance. Many hands can make light work...<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As to the issue:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The language and tone of the email that you referenced is offensive and should not be tolerated within any open source community.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This type of incident is why communities have implemented formal Codes of Conduct to provide guidance to a community as to what is considered to be acceptable behaviour, together
with the consequences of breaching that code of conduct.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A good example of a COC that I shared recently is the Berlin COC [1].<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As to our potential response:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I had a quick look at the referenced email and document.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is not our issue to sort out. This is an internal issue for the OSM community to resolve themselves. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I believe that it is not appropriate for OSGeo Oceania to intervene.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We should therefore refrain from comment.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That said, this is a good example of why we need a clear understanding of how we relate with each other within our community. I don’t recall that we have seriously discussed the
need for a COC within our community.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I recall that people like Cameron Shorter have discussed the need. Alex also referred to a conference COC (I think).<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kind regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Bruce<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">[1] <a href="https://berlincodeofconduct.org/" target="_blank">https://berlincodeofconduct.org/</a> <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">On 11 Dec 2020, at 10:20, Greg Lauer <<a href="mailto:gregory.lauer@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregory.lauer@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black">Hi All,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black">I am sure most of you will be aware of the 'Call to Take Action' being circulated in the OSM community. Several members have asked OSGeo
Oceania to endorse the call to action. See links in email below.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black">We have our first board meeting (as in with the new Board) this afternoon and I have put it as an agenda item. I am personally hesitant
for the Board to make a decision on endorsing the call to action with out some barometer of support from members and/or community for such a action (or no action).</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black">Can I ask our members and community at large to put some thought into the appropriate action that OSGeo Oceania should undertake. For
example do we agree to simply endorse the Call to action, or do we issue a statement. Or do we not support the Call to Action? I realize this is short notice but that is out of our control :-(</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black">Some of the community (including myself) have made some comments on the working document (link below this email)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black">The meeting starts at 2pm. If anybody wanted to speak to the Board on this matter we can make some time available via a Zoom invitation.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black">Thanks</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black">Greg</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black">------ Forwarded Message --------<br>
From: Celine Jacquin <<a href="mailto:celija@gmail.com" target="_blank">celija@gmail.com</a>><br>
Date: 12/10/2020 4:57:57 PM <br>
Subject: [Osmf-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community
<br>
To: <a href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a>,
<a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk@openstreetmap.org</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Hello everybody<br>
I hope you are all well<br>
<br>
We, several groups, chapters, organizations and individuals, have reacted to the conversation in the osm-talk-list (</span><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2020-December/085692.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2020-December/085692.html</span></a><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">)
considering that it is an incident symptomatic of the problem we have faced for many years in the community, which is one of the greatest obstacles to diversity at all levels of OSM. Time to make a real change.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">That is why we have developed a beginning of statement on the desirable mechanisms to work solidly on the
rules of coexistence and improve diversity.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><br>
We bring it to your attention and invite anyone who feels represented to sign it. Translations are in preparation (any help is welcome): </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/130JCTX9ve4H4ORXznmIVTpXiN3TX8nRGA8ayuTZ9ECI/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">https://docs.google.com/document/d/130JCTX9ve4H4ORXznmIVTpXiN3TX8nRGA8ayuTZ9ECI/edit?usp=sharing</span></a><u></u><u></u></p>
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On behalf of the signatories<br clear="all">
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Best regards<br>
<br>
Céline Jacquin</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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