also, at this point, it's not certain at this point that my move next<br>week necessarily implies a closed door as far as MC infrastructure, <br>so in reality the bus number *might* not change. <br><br>i'm not 100% sure on that (need to talk to sysadmins) but just putting<br>
that out there if it eases minds.<br><br>e<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 18:33, Tim Schaub <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tschaub@opengeo.org">tschaub@opengeo.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hey-<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
Christopher Schmidt wrote:<br>
> On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 03:21:48PM -0700, Tim Schaub wrote:<br>
>> Hey-<br>
>><br>
>> MetaCarta graciously hosts our project infrastructure.<br>
>><br>
>> Chris handles all (or nearly all) admin work. I assume this is all in<br>
>> his free time.<br>
><br>
> The OpenLayers server maintenance -- that is, maintaining the website<br>
> itself -- is supported by MetaCarta, but almost all other work is done<br>
> in my 'free time'. (So, mostly right, but if the website dies, I get a<br>
> phone call, even if I am on vacation. :))<br>
><br>
>> Erik has taken responsibility for accepting license agreements and trac<br>
>> account requests. I assume he manually adds people to an htpasswd file<br>
>> when doing the latter. I suggested the AccountManager plugin to remove<br>
>> the manual step - but I'm not sure exactly how permissions are handled<br>
>> (for sandbox or core contributions).<br>
>><br>
>> With Erik's departure, we reduce our bus number by one - with respect to<br>
>> the number of people with access to our project infrastructure.<br>
>><br>
>> I'd like to hear discussion again on the following:<br>
>> 1) Giving access to non-MetaCarta employees for the current servers.<br>
><br>
> This one can't really happen with our current setup.<br>
><br>
>> 2) Moving to OSGeo infrastructure.<br>
><br>
> This is the one I'd prefer. I'm glad to do it if someone else volunteers<br>
> a weekend of time to help. It will probably require at least some prep<br>
> work, and an acceptance of the community of downtime during the<br>
> transition. (My biggest reason for not transitioning yet is becasue i<br>
> think there will be a period of hours/days/possibly a week during which<br>
> we work out kinks, and I get enough abuse as is on the project that I<br>
> don't want to invite more on my own.)<br>
><br>
> If someone else is interested, the best thing to do is to:<br>
> * Speak up here<br>
<br>
</div></div>Great. I'm interested in helping out.<br>
<br>
> * Help concoct a plan<br>
<br>
I agree about waiting until after 2.8 for any downtime. If we can do<br>
any work before, I'll be more available at the end of next week.<br>
<br>
I look forward to talking more detail later.<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
Tim<br>
</font><div class="im"><br>
> * Join the SAC committee list on the osgeo servers, and start<br>
> discussing it<br>
><br>
> Over the past year, I have worked out most of the technical kinks to the<br>
> OSGeo infrastructure with regard to OSGeo in prep for us moving thee, so<br>
> at this point, it's just accepting the downtime and moving forward.<br>
><br>
> I would propose that we wait to have this downtime until *after* 2.8.<br>
> Currently, our milestone needs to have 4 tickets a day closed or moved<br>
> in order to get us to a release on time, and migrating to OSGeo takes<br>
> away valuable time towards that goal.<br>
><br>
><br>
>> I guess my motivation boils down to this: if Chris ever decides to take<br>
>> a real vacation, nobody can do squat to manage the infrastructure (for<br>
>> practical purposes).<br>
><br>
> Agreed. This has been weighing on my mind, and motivated the change to<br>
> the account admin changes.<br>
><br>
> Note that technically, John Frank also has access to the servers, and<br>
> the documentation for managing them is mostly in the wiki, but I agree<br>
> that this is only a last-defense; informative in case I *actually*<br>
> get hit by a bus before we move to OSGeo, but I completely<br>
> agree we should move to OSGeo long term.<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
</div><div class="im">Tim Schaub<br>
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