<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I've asked my contacts at ESRI The Netherlands for a clarification and as long as tiles accessed through their API there is no issue.<div><br></div><div>See also the human-readable version of the ToS which ESRI created recently:</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; "><a href="http://help.arcgis.com/en/arcgisonline/e800_summary.pdf" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://help.arcgis.com/en/arcgisonline/e800_summary.pdf</a></span><br><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Best regards,</div><div>Bart</div><div><br></div><div>
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<br><div><div>On Oct 22, 2011, at 2:45 AM, Stephen Mather wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Hi,<br> This reminds me of the TOA issues associated with the ESRI FGDB API with respect to single use licensing vs. server, ala <a href="http://blog.cleverelephant.ca/2011/01/esri-fgdb-api-no-servers-need-apply.html">Paul Ramsey's post</a> a while back. It seems like an opportunity to bring ESRI in on the conversation and see what their intent is, and whether there's an opportunity that they are missing with these restrictions (but best to be cautious in the mean time).<br>
<br>Best,<br>Steve<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 5:45 AM, Bart van den Eijnden (OSGIS) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bartvde@osgis.nl">bartvde@osgis.nl</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Hi,<br>
<br>
Bryan McBride posted a bit on Twitter about this, but it seems that ESRI's<br>
ToS [<a href="http://www.esri.com/legal/pdfs/e-800-termsofuse.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.esri.com/legal/pdfs/e-800-termsofuse.pdf</a>] does not allow<br>
third-party clients to access the web services (however this seems to<br>
differ among services since some are licensed CCA instead).<br>
<br>
Section 4, item f of the ToS reads:<br>
<br>
f. Provide others with access to Web Services through non-Esri software;<br>
<br>
So this probably means that we are validating their terms by some of our<br>
examples, especially:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://dev.openlayers.org/releases/OpenLayers-2.11/examples/arcgiscache_ags.html" target="_blank">http://dev.openlayers.org/releases/OpenLayers-2.11/examples/arcgiscache_ags.html</a><br>
<br>
which uses:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=f2498e3d0ff642bfb4b155828351ef0e" target="_blank">http://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=f2498e3d0ff642bfb4b155828351ef0e</a><br>
<br>
However this example does not work at the moment. But we might need to<br>
take some action in this regard.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Bart<br>
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