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    Yep, it all helps. Just trying to get an understanding of what our
    options are. M<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/9/2012 4:39 PM, Tobias Reinicke
      wrote:<br>
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id="mid_CAPitpCagMdLshMREMJmHC1ceksxkUTkp_6kK14YE_v1mntHfeA_mail_gmail_com"
cite="mid:CAPitpCagMdLshMREMJmHC1ceksxkUTkp=6kK14YE_v1mntHfeA@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">Yes, it's a deployed thing. Although it does only have
      quite a lightweight footprint. 
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      <div>Thinking outside the box, as it were and forgive the pun,
        this is a far stretch - I know google enterprise allows you to
        upload data and feed it out as a wms (quite a new development -
        you'd need to be an enterprise client). Possibly something like
        geocommons / giscloud may allow you to upload data and do the
        same.</div>
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      <div>Hope it helps..</div>
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      <div>Toby<br>
        <div><br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">On 9 October 2012 21:26, Mike Ryan <span
              dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:m.ryan6000@gmail.com" target="_blank">m.ryan6000@gmail.com</a>></span>
            wrote:<br>
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                <div>No, we have control. The "other" person is just my
                  co-worker. <br>
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                  I believe our real stumbling block at the moment is
                  that we're using shared hosting. Typically,
                  running/installing geoserver & mapserver would
                  require our our own (virtual) server, right? <br>
                  <span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"> <br>
                      Mike</font></span>
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                      On 10/9/2012 4:18 PM, Toby Reinicke wrote:<br>
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                      <div>Well there we go then. As Phil also says,
                        mapserver is good too, although I have no
                        experience with it. Trouble with both is that
                        you need to have some control over the data.
                        (I.e load it into a db). </div>
                      <div>From what you have written it seems that this
                        may be your stumbling block. </div>
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                      <div>Toby<br>
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                        On 9 Oct 2012, at 21:12, Mike Ryan <<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:m.ryan6000@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank">m.ryan6000@gmail.com</a>>
                        wrote:<br>
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                        <div> Hmmm... the plot thickens. Geoserver.
                          Don't know a thing about it, yet. <br>
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                          I'm not actually creating the tiles, someone
                          else is, using TileMill and then, yes pulling
                          in an XYZ Tile layer from MapBox.<br>
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                          <div>On 10/9/2012 4:07 PM, Toby Reinicke
                            wrote:<br>
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                            <div>Ah ok. Some more information on your
                              setup would be of interest. How do you
                              build your mapbox tiles? Do you have a WMs
                              server running? For my sins I haven't used
                              mapbox much, and I presume you're pulling
                              them in as a Tile layer? Passing in x,y,z
                              params? </div>
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                            <div>If I had these reqs I'd use geoserver
                              in a heartbeat. </div>
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                            <div>Toby<br>
                              <br>
                              On 9 Oct 2012, at 20:55, Mike Ryan <<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:m.ryan6000@gmail.com"
                                target="_blank">m.ryan6000@gmail.com</a>>


                              wrote:<br>
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                              <div> The problem with tiles in my
                                situation -- and someone jump in here if
                                this doesn't sound right -- is that
                                they'd cover the entire state of New
                                York from low to high zoom levels, like
                                10 to 17. We've done this just fine for
                                a small part of NYC using MapBox, but it
                                seems that to cover the entire state is
                                cost prohibitive because we'd require
                                such a huge amount of storage.<br>
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                                Does that sound out of whack?<br>
                                <br>
                                The next strategy is to use tiles at low
                                zoom levels and then switch over to
                                loading points at the high levels.<br>
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                                I'll mess around w/ the single tile idea
                                you mention.<br>
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                                Thanks<br>
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                                <div>On 10/9/2012 3:48 PM, Toby Reinicke
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                  <pre>Hey,

So what's the problem with tiles? Server side stuff is your only choice really. Not going to load those points into a browser.

If its tiles you don't like you can always call the openlayers layer as a single tile? Slow down the rendering a bit but will just create the one image...

Toby



On 9 Oct 2012, at 20:35, m1k3ry4n <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mr@mry4n.net" target="_blank"><mr@mry4n.net></a> wrote:

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                                    <pre>I have a situation where I'm going to have hundreds of thousands of points,
and I'm wondering what the options are for displaying them other than using
Tiles. These points are static, I do not need to interact with them, move
them around, etc. Any thoughts?

PS: On a separate note, I'm posting this from Nabble. I've been trying to
send messages to the list for a month and the don't seem to be coming
through. Maybe it's a subtle hint. In any case, if anyone has any ideas on
what might be going on there, please let me know.

Thanks!

Mike



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