Hi,<br>Here's the context.. in short<br><br>for the city of Vancouver data does it comply with ccBYsa?<br><a href="http://data.vancouver.ca/termsOfUse.htm" target="_blank">http://data.vancouver.ca/termsOfUse.htm</a><br>
<br>And... for OSM & OSGeo we have more in common, and need to mingle a bit better :-) .... As we are slightly more than a bunch of hobbyists :)<br><br>And the talk-ca list is here<br>
<a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca</a><br>
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and the OS Geo list is here<br>
<a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo-bc">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo-bc</a><br>
<br>I have a meet-up group for Vancouver Island, but i think that i'll extend it to the whole 092 area (to include lower mainland) so then Vancouver people wont feel left out. This is perhaps a 'neutral' ground, so then the OSM people wont have to officially become a member of the OSGeo, <br>
<a href="http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Vancouver-Island-Mappers/">http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Vancouver-Island-Mappers/</a><br><br>As Yes, it's great to hear the data is available, then onto the next step.<br>
<br>So For Nov 3rd i set up a meet-up for Vancouver, where we can go over the TransLink bus stop details, and how to integrate it with OSM. We know the process, and CERTAINLY ready to help make it happen :)<br> <br>
<a href="http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Vancouver-Island-Mappers/calendar/11364010/">http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Vancouver-Island-Mappers/calendar/11364010/</a><br><br>.... P.S. does someone else on the talk-ca list want to coordinate this import? I will (if know one else does) but i need to focus on getting this CanVec data in 1st. So there will be a delay (hence, i suggest November tackling it). (we're all volunteers) :-) with 24 hours in a day :-)<br>
<br>Cheers,<br>Sam<br><br clear="all">Twitter: @Acrosscanada<br>Facebook: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans</a><br>
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1. Re: Updated Invitation: Vancouver Island OpenStreetMap.org -<br>
Mapping Party @ Tue Aug 11 18:00 ? 21:00<br>
(<a href="mailto:osgeo-bc@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">osgeo-bc@lists.osgeo.org</a>) (Kaitlin Duck Sherwood)<br>
2. Re: Updated Invitation: Vancouver Island OpenStreetMap.org -<br>
Mapping Party @ Tue Aug 11 18:00 ? 21:00<br>
(<a href="mailto:osgeo-bc@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">osgeo-bc@lists.osgeo.org</a>) (Michael Weisman)<br>
3. City of Vancouver Open data (Rick Davidson)<br>
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:00:46 -0700<br>
From: Kaitlin Duck Sherwood <<a href="mailto:ducky@webfoot.com" target="_blank">ducky@webfoot.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [OSGeo BC] Updated Invitation: Vancouver Island<br>
OpenStreetMap.org - Mapping Party @ Tue Aug 11 18:00 ? 21:00<br>
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There is a young man named Carson who put together a quite lovely site<br>
scraping info from Translink's site and repackaging it in a much more usable<br>
form:<br>
<a href="http://www.transitdb.ca/" target="_blank">http://www.transitdb.ca/</a><br>
(Translink is the transit system for the lower mainland.)<br>
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Carson has been keeping a very low profile because some third party asserts<br>
ownership of the geolocation of all the bus stops. Seems to me that we<br>
should organize a mapping party to just go get the bus stop locations and<br>
numbers and put them into the public domain so that people like Carson can<br>
do their work unfettered.<br>
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Question 1: Does anybody here have experience with mapping parties?<br>
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Question 2: Does anybody here have good connections to the Open Street Map<br>
project? I presume that's where the data should go...<br>
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Kaitlin Duck Sherwood<br>
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:33:12 -0700<br>
From: Michael Weisman <<a href="mailto:mweisman@gmail.com" target="_blank">mweisman@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [OSGeo BC] Updated Invitation: Vancouver Island<br>
OpenStreetMap.org - Mapping Party @ Tue Aug 11 18:00 ? 21:00<br>
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Good ol' Translink.<br>
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I wrote a script a few years back that not only scrapes translink's<br>
schedules, but also attempts to parse the stop names, geocode them,<br>
and then create lines from the points and load the whole thing into<br>
PostGIS. It worked pretty well, (maybe 80% accuracy) and did not use<br>
translink's spatial data but resulted in a nasty gram from them, so I<br>
haven't touched it in a couple years.<br>
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The source is on my website if you are interested in playing with it:<br>
<a href="http://www.mweisman.com/geocode.zip" target="_blank">http://www.mweisman.com/geocode.zip</a>. I have also documented the REST<br>
API that translink's iPhone app uses<br>
(<a href="http://www.mweisman.com/transit.html" target="_blank">http://www.mweisman.com/transit.html</a>), but since this is not supposed<br>
to be public, I have no idea what the terms of service are for the<br>
data.<br>
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You may want to start by simply using the web-based editing tools to<br>
add stops to OSM. May be easier than actually going around to every<br>
stop on foot.<br>
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Michael Weisman<br>
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On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Kaitlin Duck Sherwood<br>
<<a href="mailto:ducky@webfoot.com" target="_blank">ducky@webfoot.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> There is a young man named Carson who put together a quite lovely site<br>
> scraping info from Translink's site and repackaging it in a much more usable<br>
> form:<br>
> <a href="http://www.transitdb.ca/" target="_blank">http://www.transitdb.ca/</a><br>
> (Translink is the transit system for the lower mainland.)<br>
><br>
> Carson has been keeping a very low profile because some third party asserts<br>
> ownership of the geolocation of all the bus stops. Seems to me that we<br>
> should organize a mapping party to just go get the bus stop locations and<br>
> numbers and put them into the public domain so that people like Carson can<br>
> do their work unfettered.<br>
><br>
> Question 1: Does anybody here have experience with mapping parties?<br>
><br>
> Question 2: Does anybody here have good connections to the Open Street Map<br>
> project? I presume that's where the data should go...<br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Kaitlin Duck Sherwood<br>
><br>
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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:32:03 -0600<br>
From: Rick Davidson <<a href="mailto:Rick.Davidson@TELUS.COM" target="_blank">Rick.Davidson@TELUS.COM</a>><br>
Subject: [OSGeo BC] City of Vancouver Open data<br>
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City of Vancouver Open Data Catalogue - Beta version, is online:<br>
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<a href="http://data.vancouver.ca/" target="_blank">http://data.vancouver.ca/</a><br>
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The data is in various different formats, so some data conversion may be required to use it with your favorite software.<br>
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Let's hope that Vancouver's example is soon followed by other governments and agencies.<br>
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Rick<br>
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