<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/8/20 Frank Warmerdam <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:warmerdam@pobox.com" target="_blank">warmerdam@pobox.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra">Jurgen / Steve,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I haven't followed this discussion as closely as I likely ought to have, but I'll make a few notes:</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">1) I'm not particularly interested in showing free software licenses in the OSGeo4W installer. I'm only showing the proprietary ones because it is required to avoid legal liability. I am not aware of us having any obligation to show free software licenses. If anything I *like* the fact that users are forced through some agree-to-license-misery for proprietary licenses which emphasizes how lame they are and celebrates the awesomeness of no bull free software.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">2) I'm a bit dubious about md5sum's for merging same licenses into one request, but since I'm not worried about non-free licenses it isn't an issue for me. </div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">3) I'd rather not use automatic pdf conversion to text. This process only has to be done once per package, and I'd rather have a human review the text-ified version and ensure that its still captures the original agreement in a reasonable form.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think the first automatic conversion help us but now I will give them a good format because some characteres are strange </div><div><br></div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"></div><div class="gmail_extra">Best regards,</div><div class="gmail_extra">Frank</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Jürgen E. <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jef@norbit.de" target="_blank">jef@norbit.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Steve,<br>
<div><br>
On Mon, 12. Aug 2013 at 13:25:47 -0500, Lord Flaubert Steve Ataucuri Cruz wrote:<br>
> > Also included are license files for most packages ($pkg-$ver-$pver.txt, but<br>
> > also *.pdf and *.rtf) - for free and non-free licensed packages.<br>
<br>
> Actually the installer only support a txt file as a license<br>
<br>
</div>Sure. But the ECW license is in RTF and the MrSID license is in PDF.<br>
<br>
I suppose pdftotext and catdoc do a good enough job to produce plain text from<br>
those.<br>
<div><br>
<br>
> > As you might notice I didn't differentiate between free and non-free<br>
> > licenses. And therefore there are a lot of licenses the installer will<br>
> > show and request to accept.<br>
<br>
> It wasn't the idea, the installer only will show a license for restrictive<br>
> packages , there are only three or four packages. Only few packages will have<br>
> "license" entry in "setup.ini" file, not all.<br>
<br>
</div>Sure, but I feel that it somewhat belittles the free licenses.<br>
<div><br>
<br>
> > I thought the md5sum would help to identify where the same license applies,<br>
> > but I just notices that it doesn't even work for the GPL (lots of minor<br>
< > difference in the files). So that would need a different approach. Any<br>
> > thoughts?<br>
<br>
> I don't understand you how md5sum might help to licenses, could you explain<br>
> us in more detail way, please? or someone could give us another point of<br>
> view.<br>
<br>
</div>Same license. Same file content. Same md5sum. In that case we could have<br>
just determine which packages share the same license by md5sum and display each<br>
license only once with a list of packages that share it.<br>
<br>
But unfortunately the md5sums don't match in setup.ini although the licenses<br>
are virtually the same (except for the FSF address, blanks, formfeeds and stuff<br>
like that). So that doesn't work.<br>
<br>
Some of the free packages don't even contain the full license text and only<br>
reference the well known license (e.g. available form OSI,<br>
<a href="http://opensource.org/licenses/" target="_blank">http://opensource.org/licenses/</a>). So the current license files could be well<br>
replaced with a pointer to that site.<br>
<br>
Any maybe there should be another field in the setup.ini that tells us if a<br>
license must be explicitly accepted.<br>
<div><br>
<br>
> > More installer observations (probably at least partly already on Steve's<br>
> > todo list):<br>
<br>
> Thanks by your feedback I am working on it today<br>
<br>
> > - the license display widget doesn't resize in the installer<br>
<br>
> Done<br>
<br>
</div>Thanks.<br>
<div><br>
<br>
> > - Line breaks don't show well<br>
> > - Apparently the license display is (sometimes?) truncated and shows junk<br>
> > at the end.<br>
> > - It doesn't track licenses that have already been agreed to (ie. on<br>
> > reinstall).<br>
> > - Maybe we should also store them somewhere and produce license shortcuts<br>
> > in the program group (or just one to the directory).<br>
> > - How should non-text licenses (PDF, RTF) be handled? I suppose we could<br>
> > just convert them to .txt in regen.sh.<br>
<br>
> Yes I think it should be convert to .txt I dont know if it is easy to do.<br>
<br>
</div>Ok, I'll do that tomorrow then.<br>
<br>
<br>
> > - The program group name is not configurable (ie. OSGEO4W_STARTMENU) multiple<br>
<div>> > OSGeo4W installs overwrite each others shortcuts.<br>
<br>
> > For the QGIS standalone installer I was planning to collect all the license<br>
> > files into one LICENSE.txt that is presented on install. Maybe that's also<br>
> > an approach for the osgeo4w installer. Collect the licenses, present them<br>
> > in a large scrollable list and allow to accept them all at once.<br>
<br>
> My mentor Frank told me this process had to do for each restrictive package<br>
> but it can work if you collect all licenses files into one license.<br>
<br>
</div>Question is if that's a better approach for the osgeo4w installer or not.<br>
<div><br>
<br>
Jürgen<br>
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