<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra">Tamas,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I agree with you, Daniel and Jurgen that we would be focused on windows though I am optimistic that OSGeo4W could also be a source for those trying to make custom windows installers (ie. Portable GIS, what I used to do with FWTools and possibly even Jeff with MS4W). </div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Once we have a PSC, we need to discuss direction and then nail a plan down and agree to it. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Best regards,</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Frank</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Tamas Szekeres <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:szekerest@gmail.com" target="_blank">szekerest@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Frank,<div><br></div><div>The <a href="http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/wiki/rfc1_pmc" target="_blank">RFC</a> looks pretty good, thanks for putting that together. Once the PSC is formed, I'm keen on writing a second one where we could start thinking about the primary objectives and requirements of the system we should realize, I think we all have quite some ideas, and experiences in creating windows builds (both positive and negative) which makes it possible to find out the right direction to follow.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I also think packaging on Windows is a different thing, other platforms may apply for a separate governance regarding to the binary distributions, there might be some common aspects, though.</div><div>
<br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Tamas</div><div><br></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/9/25 Frank Warmerdam <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:warmerdam@pobox.com" target="_blank">warmerdam@pobox.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Folks,<br>
<br>
I have initiated an RFC for a project management committee for<br>
OSGeo4W. I'd encourage everyone interested in participating to joint<br>
the osgeo4w-dev mailing list and to continue detailed discussion<br>
there.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo4w-dev" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo4w-dev</a><br>
<br>
I think this list (osgeo-discuss) is a great place to discuss linkages<br>
between different packaging efforts.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Frank<br>
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On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:06 AM, Jo Cook <<a href="mailto:jocook@astuntechnology.com" target="_blank">jocook@astuntechnology.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> The newest version of Portable GIS doesn't require quite so many admin<br>
> privileges, but I've also slimmed it down dramatically so it fits on a<br>
> smaller USB stick, so it contains a lot less software (no gvsig, no mysql<br>
> etc). It is used extensively for training courses in the UK, without too<br>
> many problems, and the new version should be better again as I have a<br>
> windows 8 VM to test on at last.<br>
><br>
> I'd like to bring Portable GIS in line with OSGeo4W and OSGeo Live- I've<br>
> spoken to both Alex and Cameron about this in the past- but I have some work<br>
> to do before that's possible- namely around documenting exactly which files<br>
> I change, and also the build process. It's all in a local mercurial<br>
> repository at the moment, but I'd really like to get it online. To be<br>
> honest, my big concern is that I don't always have time to focus on things<br>
> outside of my core work (maybe that will change post FOSS4G) and I can't<br>
> guarantee being able to pitch in at release time, or even respond to issues<br>
> in a timely manner. That's the main reason why I've kept it as a little pet<br>
> project- so I'm not letting anyone else down!<br>
><br>
> Sorry, didn't mean to hijack this discussion!<br>
><br>
> I think it makes sense to come up with an over-arching<br>
> project/committee/whatever that covers both OSGeo4W and OSGeo-Live, and<br>
> maybe PortableGIS at some point, rather than separate projects. It's always<br>
> better to share work rather than replicate it. Does anyone have any<br>
> objections to that idea? Personally, I'd then sketch out the workflows for<br>
> each, and figure out what make-up of committee would be required to oversee<br>
> that and go through incubation.<br>
><br>
> Jo<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Alex Mandel <<a href="mailto:tech_dev@wildintellect.com" target="_blank">tech_dev@wildintellect.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On 09/24/2013 12:50 AM, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:<br>
>> > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:08 AM, Angelos Tzotsos <<a href="mailto:gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com" target="_blank">gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> > wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Hi Daniel,<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I am in favor of both OSGeoLive and OSGeo4W going through a few weeks<br>
>> >> incubation process.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Best,<br>
>> >> Angelos<br>
>> >><br>
>> > My own impression is that if we want to reach out to non-geek GIS<br>
>> > users the ideal way would be a system like portable GIS with the great<br>
>> > documentation of the live dvd, ie run and test the programs without<br>
>> > needing to be admin or having to install different programs.<br>
>><br>
>> I've researched this problem, talked with Jo (Current author of<br>
>> PortableGIS <a href="http://www.archaeogeek.com/portable-gis.html" target="_blank">http://www.archaeogeek.com/portable-gis.html</a>)<br>
>><br>
>> There is almost no way to make this work without Admin priveleges on a<br>
>> windows machine. Some individual apps can be made to work by extensively<br>
>> modifying how they look for libs but many require things like a jvm to<br>
>> run on top of, or a mix of system an local libs (e.g. Visual C++ is<br>
>> required for many OSGeo4W apps and requires an install, that's actually<br>
>> about the only part that has to be installed vs just in the OSGeo4w<br>
>> folder).<br>
>><br>
>> This is actually why I settled on helping create OSGeo Live bootable<br>
>> products and virtual machines. Of course this isn't perfect either as<br>
>> figuring out how to boot a disk or usb seems beyond some users, and the<br>
>> virtual machine still hits needing admin to install virtualization<br>
>> software.<br>
>><br>
>> I also agree there's no reason many of the documentation efforts can't<br>
>> be shared.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>> Alex<br>
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