<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Cameron,<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Yes, we can CC to OSGEO-Live. I will subscribe the mailing list. But at the exact moment my time is pretty small for long discussions (if they happen).</div><div>I'm back from 7 weeks on field work, and I must deal with a "mountain" of tasks and multibeam data, and most of them must be finished/processed before the end of THIS month. Oh my God! :-(</div><div>Thanks for all the infos... I will start reading the howtos and looking inside the script.</div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Christian</div><div><br></div><div>Christian Ferreira<br><div>Oceanographer, MSc.</div><div>Seafloor Imaging Group</div><div>MARUM - Center for Marine Environmental Sciences</div>Bremen - Germany<br><br>Poseidon Linux team<br><div><a href="http://www.poseidonlinux.org">http://www.poseidonlinux.org</a></div></div><div><br><div><div>On Oct 21, 2010, at 1:06 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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Christian,<br>
<br>
Do you mind if we CC the OSGeo-Live list with this conversation?<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:live-demo@lists.osgeo.org">live-demo@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo</a><br>
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I'm delighted to hear that you are still driving Poseidon project along.<br>
And very excited by the possibility of sharing our core development
work, and then creating customised release distributions which use the
same core.<br>
<br>
What this would mean practically:<br>
1. You would identify the packages that you would like installed in
Poseidon, then create your own install master install script (which
calls the individual package scripts).<br>
See: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/livedvd/gisvm/trunk/bin/main.sh">https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/livedvd/gisvm/trunk/bin/main.sh</a><br>
<br>
2. Write Documentation - our project overviews and quickstarts are
currently being translated into German, Italian, Spanish, Greek and
Japanese.<br>
<br>
3. For any applications which we don't have an install script for, you
(or someone else) would need to write an installer.<br>
Example here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/livedvd/gisvm/trunk/bin/install_udig.sh">https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/livedvd/gisvm/trunk/bin/install_udig.sh</a><br>
More detailed instructions here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project</a><br>
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4. We would then run the main.sh script on a clean Ubuntu distribution,
and create an ISO.<br>
Detailed instructions here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Build#Creating_the_GIS_Virtual_Machine">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Build#Creating_the_GIS_Virtual_Machine</a><br>
<br>
It may seem a lot to digest up front, but I'm very confident that once
you get the hang of the process, you will find it significantly easier
than doing it all by yourself, and you will be able to tap into a very
extensive community of developers who are working on this with us:<br>
Roughly:<br>
* 3 core packagers<br>
* another 5 or so non-core packages and testers who help out sometimes<br>
* around 25 to 30 people who specifically work on packaging, testing
and debugging their specific project install scripts and documentation.<br>
* around 10 translators<br>
<br>
Why don't you have a quick look at the links above, then decide whether
you would like to base poseidon upon these packaging processes.<br>
<br>
If so, then we can work together to try creating an alpha poseidon
release and test the release process for you. (I think after you have
done it once, with our help, you will be convinced that it will be
easier than doing it the old way). Working together I expect we should
be able to get something going in under a week's effort.<br>
<br>
On 20/10/10 18:37, Christian - Poseidon Linux wrote:
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<div>Hello Cameron,</div>
<div><br>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks for keeping some faith on Poseidon.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Yes, Poseidon is going further... I had 5 intensive months with
cruises/travels but now I'm back to Germany. And this unfortunately
delayed the next version. :-(</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Also, Hamish suggested me to include the sample data from MB
System on Poseidon (instead of OSGeo-Live), and I agreed. Actually, I
think that since Poseidon has now two variant: full version and the MB
System one (plus QGIS, </div>
<div>GRASS and GMT), maybe I could the last one into some kind
"classroom" version, with lots of sample data and documentation, and
maybe this help OSGeo as well.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Yes please, provide me the scripts. Maybe we can share the load
of software, since both distribution have a different and similar at
the same time.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Actually, I'm not against getting closer to OSGeo, is just that
I'm the only developer on Poseidon, and like an old man (I'm only 35) I
tend to stay with what I already know. :-)</div>
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<div>Also, I'm pooling with some people to have Poseidon available on
every big research vessel because of MB System/bathymetry. And I
planning some tutorials for MB System (which I already have done), but
also some integrating it with GMT, GRASS and QGIS (to be done).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Let's restart the conversation.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>Christian</div>
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<div>Christian Ferreira</div>
<div>Oceanographer, MSc. </div>
<div>MARUM - Center for Marine Environmental Sciences</div>
<div>Bremen, Germany</div>
<div>Coordinator of <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.poseidonlinux.org/">Poseidon Linux</a></div>
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<div>On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:28 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:</div>
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<blockquote type="cite">PS,<br>
You can see what is currently on the OSGeo-Live distribution here: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://live.osgeo.org/">http://live.osgeo.org</a><br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Cameron
Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cameron.shorter@lisasoft.com">cameron.shorter@lisasoft.com</a>></span>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hello
Christian,<br>
I keep seeing your name and the poseidon linux distribution popping up
in various places, and this has prompted me to touch base again to see
if we can help you build your next poseidon linux distribution.<br>
<br>
(Are you considering putting out further poseidon linux distributions?)<br>
<br>
Here at the OSGeo-Live project we are running into a problem with space
on the DVD. Soon we won't be able to fit all applications onto the DVD.<br>
<br>
So what will be important is to be able to create specific targeted
distributions for specific domains, and I think that Poseidon Linix
would be a very good version.<br>
<br>
What we can do is provide the core distribution though our build
scripts, which you can use as a basis. You can then value add by
selecting the applications you wish to install, then applying any
customisations you may think is required.<br>
<br>
Is this of interest?
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:27 AM,
Christian Ferreira <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:christian@poseidonlinux.org" target="_blank">christian@poseidonlinux.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi
all,<br>
<br>
<br>
Poseidon is going to be updated to Ubuntu 9.10. The work is on the way.<br>
<br>
Actually, I have two versions nearly 100% ready based on Ubuntu 9.04.
But took me so much time, that now this Ubuntu has just less than 1
year of security updates, so I decided for giving up. So, these
Poseidon will never be released.<br>
<br>
The problem, is that Poseidon since from the beginning, Poseidon is a
distro of a man alone. The team help with the website and sometimes
writing documentation... but, the distro related work is done just by
me.<br>
<br>
So, sometimes with the cruises, work and family is hard to find tons of
time to produce real polished and good Poseidon release.<br>
<br>
Anyway... I new version is under construction... Actually, I am
preparing first a minimal version of Poseidon Linux just with the GIS
and MB System. This will be ready until end of December (I will work
during Xmas hollidays on it).<br>
<br>
Well, I'm always glad to have help or ideas... <br>
<br>
Unfortunately, Poseidon Linux doesn't has the infrastructure necessary
to be a internet shared project. And I never could find the resources
to do so.<br>
<br>
PS: Please, Hamish and others... in the future (if possible), write me
just to this email... the "chris for lists" email gets dozens of emails
(and I use filter that sort them), so any personal mail is not filtered
and may get lost among them.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Christian
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:57 PM,
Hamish <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:hamish_b@yahoo.com" target="_blank">hamish_b@yahoo.com</a>></span>
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Hamish:<br>
> >> you might mave a look at the Poseidon live dvd project.<br>
<br>
Massimo:<br>
> > I know it, it's a great project!<br>
> > from poseido i see some sw title i don't know first.<br>
> > But seems the last release is dated 2008.<br>
> > Maybe for educational purpose is not needed<br>
> > to have the last sw version installed?<br>
> > btw, just to know if it was a topic of interests.<br>
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Cameron Shorter wrote:<br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.en.poseidonlinux.org/" target="_blank">http://www.en.poseidonlinux.org/</a><br>
> This project looks very similar to what we are doing and<br>
> there is great potential for us to collaborate. Does anyone<br>
> know the developers there yet and want to invite them to<br>
> work together with us?<br>
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any thoughts Christian?<br>
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regards,<br>
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