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    Christian,<br>
    Why don't you get through your mountain of work, then get back in
    touch when you are ready to start trying out the build process for
    poseidon, and I'll support you to get it working.<br>
    <br>
    On 22/10/2010 12:03 AM, Christian Ferreira wrote:
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:A0F9BB15-EF03-45A9-803F-E080C9ED56F7@googlemail.com"
      type="cite">Cameron,
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Yes, we can CC to OSGEO-Live. I will subscribe the mailing
        list. But at the exact moment my time is pretty small for long
        discussions (if they happen).</div>
      <div>I'm back from 7 weeks on field work, and I must deal with a
        "mountain" of tasks and multibeam data, and most of them must be
        finished/processed before the end of THIS month. Oh my God! :-(</div>
      <div>Thanks for all the infos... I will start reading the howtos
        and looking inside the script.</div>
      <div>Cheers,</div>
      <div>Christian</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Christian Ferreira<br>
        <div>Oceanographer, MSc.</div>
        <div>Seafloor Imaging Group</div>
        <div>MARUM - Center for Marine Environmental Sciences</div>
        Bremen - Germany<br>
        <br>
        Poseidon Linux team<br>
        <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://www.poseidonlinux.org">http://www.poseidonlinux.org</a></div>
      </div>
      <div><br>
        <div>
          <div>On Oct 21, 2010, at 1:06 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:</div>
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              Christian,<br>
              <br>
              Do you mind if we CC the OSGeo-Live list with this
              conversation?<br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                href="mailto:live-demo@lists.osgeo.org">live-demo@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo</a><br>
              <br>
              I'm delighted to hear that you are still driving Poseidon
              project along.<br>
              And very excited by the possibility of sharing our core
              development
              work, and then creating customised release distributions
              which use the
              same core.<br>
              <br>
              What this would mean practically:<br>
              1. You would identify the packages that you would like
              installed in
              Poseidon, then create your own install master install
              script (which
              calls the individual package scripts).<br>
              See: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                href="https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/livedvd/gisvm/trunk/bin/main.sh">https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/livedvd/gisvm/trunk/bin/main.sh</a><br>
              <br>
              2. Write Documentation - our project overviews and
              quickstarts are
              currently being translated into German, Italian, Spanish,
              Greek and
              Japanese.<br>
              <br>
              3. For any applications which we don't have an install
              script for, you
              (or someone else) would need to write an installer.<br>
              Example here:
              <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/livedvd/gisvm/trunk/bin/install_udig.sh">https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/livedvd/gisvm/trunk/bin/install_udig.sh</a><br>
              More detailed instructions here:
              <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project</a><br>
              <br>
              4. We would then run the main.sh script on a clean Ubuntu
              distribution,
              and create an ISO.<br>
              Detailed instructions here:
              <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Build#Creating_the_GIS_Virtual_Machine">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Build#Creating_the_GIS_Virtual_Machine</a><br>
              <br>
              It may seem a lot to digest up front, but I'm very
              confident that once
              you get the hang of the process, you will find it
              significantly easier
              than doing it all by yourself, and you will be able to tap
              into a very
              extensive community of developers who are working on this
              with us:<br>
              Roughly:<br>
              * 3 core packagers<br>
              * another 5 or so non-core packages and testers who help
              out sometimes<br>
              * around 25 to 30 people who specifically work on
              packaging, testing
              and debugging their specific project install scripts and
              documentation.<br>
              * around 10 translators<br>
              <br>
              Why don't you have a quick look at the links above, then
              decide whether
              you would like to base poseidon upon these packaging
              processes.<br>
              <br>
              If so, then we can work together to try creating an alpha
              poseidon
              release and test the release process for you. (I think
              after you have
              done it once, with our help, you will be convinced that it
              will be
              easier than doing it the old way). Working together I
              expect we should
              be able to get something going in under a week's effort.<br>
              <br>
              On 20/10/10 18:37, Christian - Poseidon Linux wrote:
              <blockquote
                cite="mid:D0A171EE-14FA-4904-B412-001558D391B9@poseidonlinux.org"
                type="cite">
                <div>Hello Cameron,</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Thanks for keeping some faith on Poseidon.</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Yes, Poseidon is going further... I had 5 intensive
                  months with
                  cruises/travels but now I'm back to Germany. And this
                  unfortunately
                  delayed the next version. :-(</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Also, Hamish suggested me to include the sample
                  data from MB
                  System on Poseidon (instead of OSGeo-Live), and I
                  agreed. Actually, I
                  think that since Poseidon has now two variant: full
                  version and the MB
                  System one (plus QGIS, </div>
                <div>GRASS and GMT), maybe I could the last one into
                  some kind
                  "classroom" version, with lots of sample data and
                  documentation, and
                  maybe this help OSGeo as well.</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Yes please, provide me the scripts. Maybe we can
                  share the load
                  of software, since both distribution have a different
                  and similar at
                  the same time.</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Actually, I'm not against getting closer to OSGeo,
                  is just that
                  I'm the only developer on Poseidon, and like an old
                  man (I'm only 35) I
                  tend to stay with what I already know. :-)</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Also, I'm pooling with some people to have Poseidon
                  available on
                  every big research vessel because of MB
                  System/bathymetry. And I
                  planning some tutorials for MB System (which I already
                  have done), but
                  also some integrating it with GMT, GRASS and QGIS (to
                  be done).</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Let's restart the conversation.</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Cheers,</div>
                <div>Christian</div>
                <br>
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                                    <div>Christian Ferreira</div>
                                    <div>Oceanographer, MSc. </div>
                                    <div>MARUM - Center for
                                      Marine Environmental Sciences</div>
                                    <div>Bremen, Germany</div>
                                    <div>Coordinator of <a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://www.poseidonlinux.org/">Poseidon
                                        Linux</a></div>
                                    <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:christian@poseidonlinux.org">christian@poseidonlinux.org</a></div>
                                  </div>
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                            </span></div>
                        </span></div>
                    </span></span></div>
                <br>
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                  <div>On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:28 AM, Cameron Shorter
                    wrote:</div>
                  <br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
                  <blockquote type="cite">PS,<br>
                    You can see what is currently on the OSGeo-Live
                    distribution here: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://live.osgeo.org/">http://live.osgeo.org</a><br>
                    <br>
                    <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at
                      10:28 AM, Cameron
                      Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:cameron.shorter@lisasoft.com">cameron.shorter@lisasoft.com</a>></span>
                      wrote:<br>
                      <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                        style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204,
                        204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left:
                        1ex;">Hello
                        Christian,<br>
                        I keep seeing your name and the poseidon linux
                        distribution popping up
                        in various places, and this has prompted me to
                        touch base again to see
                        if we can help you build your next poseidon
                        linux distribution.<br>
                        <br>
                        (Are you considering putting out further
                        poseidon linux distributions?)<br>
                        <br>
                        Here at the OSGeo-Live project we are running
                        into a problem with space
                        on the DVD. Soon we won't be able to fit all
                        applications onto the DVD.<br>
                        <br>
                        So what will be important is to be able to
                        create specific targeted
                        distributions for specific domains, and I think
                        that Poseidon Linix
                        would be a very good version.<br>
                        <br>
                        What we can do is provide the core distribution
                        though our build
                        scripts, which you can use as a basis. You can
                        then value add by
                        selecting the applications you wish to install,
                        then applying any
                        customisations you may think is required.<br>
                        <br>
                        Is this of interest?
                        <div>
                          <div class="h5"><br>
                            <br>
                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 16,
                              2009 at 2:27 AM,
                              Christian Ferreira <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:christian@poseidonlinux.org"
                                  target="_blank">christian@poseidonlinux.org</a>></span>
                              wrote:<br>
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                                204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;
                                padding-left: 1ex;">Hi
                                all,<br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                Poseidon is going to be updated to
                                Ubuntu 9.10. The work is on the way.<br>
                                <br>
                                Actually, I have two versions nearly
                                100% ready based on Ubuntu 9.04.
                                But took me so much time, that now this
                                Ubuntu has just less than 1
                                year of security updates, so I decided
                                for giving up. So, these
                                Poseidon will never be released.<br>
                                <br>
                                The problem, is that Poseidon since from
                                the beginning, Poseidon is a
                                distro of a man alone. The team help
                                with the website and sometimes
                                writing documentation... but, the distro
                                related work is done just by
                                me.<br>
                                <br>
                                So, sometimes with the cruises, work and
                                family is hard to find tons of
                                time to produce real polished and good
                                Poseidon release.<br>
                                <br>
                                Anyway... I new version is under
                                construction... Actually, I am
                                preparing first a minimal version of
                                Poseidon Linux just with the GIS
                                and MB System. This will be ready until
                                end of December (I will work
                                during Xmas hollidays on it).<br>
                                <br>
                                Well, I'm always glad to have help or
                                ideas... <br>
                                <br>
                                Unfortunately, Poseidon Linux doesn't
                                has the infrastructure necessary
                                to be a internet shared project. And I
                                never could find the resources
                                to do so.<br>
                                <br>
                                PS: Please, Hamish and others... in the
                                future (if possible), write me
                                just to this email... the "chris for
                                lists" email gets dozens of emails
                                (and I use filter that sort them), so
                                any personal mail is not filtered
                                and may get lost among them.<br>
                                <br>
                                Best regards,<br>
                                Christian
                                <div>
                                  <div><br>
                                    <br>
                                    <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec
                                      15, 2009 at 12:57 PM,
                                      Hamish <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:hamish_b@yahoo.com"
                                          target="_blank">hamish_b@yahoo.com</a>></span>
                                      wrote:<br>
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                                        Hamish:<br>
                                        > >> you might mave a
                                        look at the Poseidon live dvd
                                        project.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Massimo:<br>
                                        > > I know it, it's a
                                        great project!<br>
                                        > > from poseido i see
                                        some sw title i don't know
                                        first.<br>
                                        > > But seems the last
                                        release is dated 2008.<br>
                                        > > Maybe for educational
                                        purpose is not needed<br>
                                        > > to have the last sw
                                        version installed?<br>
                                        > > btw, just to know if
                                        it was a topic of interests.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Cameron Shorter wrote:<br>
                                        > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.en.poseidonlinux.org/" target="_blank">http://www.en.poseidonlinux.org/</a><br>
                                        > This project looks very
                                        similar to what we are doing and<br>
                                        > there is great potential
                                        for us to collaborate. Does
                                        anyone<br>
                                        > know the developers there
                                        yet and want to invite them to<br>
                                        > work together with us?<br>
                                        <br>
                                        any thoughts Christian?<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        regards,<br>
                                        <font color="#888888">Hamish<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
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                                -- <br>
                                Christian Ferreira<br>
                                Oceanographer<br>
                                Marum - Center for Marine Environmental
                                Sciences<br>
                                Bremen - Germany<br>
                                <br>
                                Poseidon Linux team<br>
                                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://www.poseidonlinux.org/"
                                  target="_blank">http://www.poseidonlinux.org</a><br>
                                <br>
                                Poseidon Linux team<br>
                                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://www.poseidonlinux.org/"
                                  target="_blank">http://www.poseidonlinux.org</a><br>
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                        </div>
                        <div class="im">-- <br>
                          Cameron Shorter<br>
                          Geospatial Systems Architect<br>
                          Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050<br>
                          Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254<br>
                          <br>
                          Think Globally, Fix Locally<br>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <div class="h5">Commercial Support for
                            Geospatial Open Source
                            Solutions<br>
                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://www.lisasoft.com/LISAsoft/SupportedProducts.html"
                              target="_blank">http://www.lisasoft.com/LISAsoft/SupportedProducts.html</a><br>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </blockquote>
                    </div>
                    <br>
                    <br clear="all">
                    <br>
                    -- <br>
                    Cameron Shorter<br>
                    Geospatial Systems Architect<br>
                    Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050<br>
                    Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254<br>
                    <br>
                    Think Globally, Fix Locally<br>
                    Commercial Support for Geospatial Open Source
                    Solutions<br>
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://www.lisasoft.com/LISAsoft/SupportedProducts.html">http://www.lisasoft.com/LISAsoft/SupportedProducts.html</a><br>
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              </blockquote>
              <br>
              <br>
              <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Cameron Shorter
Geospatial Solutions Manager
Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254

Think Globally, Fix Locally
Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.lisasoft.com/">http://www.lisasoft.com</a>
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    <br>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Cameron Shorter
Geospatial Solutions Manager
Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254

Think Globally, Fix Locally
Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.lisasoft.com">http://www.lisasoft.com</a>
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