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Hi,<br>
<br>
Natural Earth is a very low resolution dataset.<br>
A lot of OTB algorithms are targeted (and only make sense) for
high/very high resolution imagery.<br>
So it seems very relevant to include some extracts of one or two
high resolution satellite imagery.<br>
<br>
My 2 cents...<br>
Julien<br>
<br>
<br>
Le 12/01/2011 18:41, Manuel Grizonnet a écrit :
<blockquote
cite="mid:AANLkTinMsPN9s9pXL_YkD2_GSSMfzvmCUpu4=0Sf84Wd@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Hi all,
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">I
answer below to questions about OTB before moving forward:<br>
<br>
1. OSGeo-Live is targeted at applications that people can use
rather<br>
than libraries that are included into other applications. Does
ORFEO<br>
Toolbox have a user interface (possibly command line
interface) that a<br>
user can interact with and try out ORFEO Toolbox?</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">->Yes
the software Monteverdi based on OTB </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,'Lucida
Grande',arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(17, 17,
17); line-height: 19px;">provide a user interface and an
architecture which allows building processing chains by
selecting modules from a set of menus. It supports raster and
vector dataThe architecture takes advantage of the streaming
and multi-threading capabilities of the OTB pipeline. It also
uses cool features as processing on demand and automagic file
format I/O. The application is called Monteverdi, since this
is the name of the <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudio_Monteverdi"
style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Orfeo
composer</a>.</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"> The application is also packaged
on Ubuntu, you can find more informations here : </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/otb/monteverdi.html">http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/otb/monteverdi.html</a></div>
<div>Moreover the otb-app package provides OTB processing chain
(command line interface) which are also accessible through user
interface (standalone qt application or qgis plugins) </div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">2.
OSGeo-Live is memory and disk constrained.</span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;
font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">Can
ORFEO Toolbox run in 512 Meg or RAM?</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;
font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">->Yes, we
already provide in the past Live OTB which works on this type
of platforms. The application monteverdi was developped in the
frame of capacity building activities and it works on PC
with memory and disk constrained (512 Mo of RAM is enough to
run the application and do basic processing). <br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">How
much disk space will be required to install ORFEO Toolbox and
a</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">suitable
example application.</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;
font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">-> otb package
10 Mo, monteverdi package 10 Mo, otb-app 15 Mo<br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">What
datasets would be required for a demonstration? Can you make
use of</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">the
naturalearth dataset already installed, or would you need
something</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">else?</span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;
font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets"
target="_blank" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 204);">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets</a></span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;
font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">-> I do not
know this dataset, I think that we can use this dataset. We
provide also on our repository extract of remote sensing data
which are used as examples in the software guide and in the
OTB tutorial. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://hg.orfeo-toolbox.org/OTB-Data/">http://hg.orfeo-toolbox.org/OTB-Data/</a></span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">Our
documentation (description of algorithms, input images,
examples and results) are automatically generated each time
when we update the software guide to ensure that results which
appear in the documentation are results provided by the
library.</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">We
can pointed out interesting "Toy example" if you want which
will give an overview of OTB functionnalities on the Live DVD?<br>
</span></div>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:AANLkTinMsPN9s9pXL_YkD2_GSSMfzvmCUpu4=0Sf84Wd@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">3.
You mention that ORFEO is in OSGeo incubation. I can't see
ORFEO</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">listed
at</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"> </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;
font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://osgeo.org"
target="_blank" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 204);">http://osgeo.org</a></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;
font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"> </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;
font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">. Have you
started incubation, or are you on</span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;
font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">the
waiting list to start incubation?</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;
font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">-> Sorry, I
only open a ticket on the OSGeo website to start the
incubation process for now...<br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">4.
Stability is very important to us on OSGeo-Live. Do you have a
bug</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">free,
stable release, which has been rolled out to production in a</span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;
font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">number
of locations?</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;
font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">-> The last
OTB release 3.8.0 and monteverdi 1.6.0 are the latest stable
release. OTB validation is mainly driven by a platform of
automatic tests (based on cmake, ctest and cdash). The library
is continuously and intensively tests on numerous platforms.
There are more than 1500 tests currently in the library...</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://dash.orfeo-toolbox.org/index.php?project=OTB">http://dash.orfeo-toolbox.org/index.php?project=OTB</a><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">5.
I notice the CeCILL licence you use is not listed on OSI list
of</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">licences.
Has license been discussed and resolved on the</span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;
font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">OSGeo-Incubation
list?</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;
font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">-> I am not
aware of any discussions about the licence, Cecill is a free
software license (adapted to french legal matter) compatible
with GPL : <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CeCILL">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CeCILL</a><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">6.
Do you have a person (maybe yourself?) prepared to volunteer
to be</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">the
OSGeo-Live representative, who will take responsibility for
liaising</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">between
the project and OSGeo-Live and make sure that scripts and</span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;
font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">documentation
are updated for each release.</span></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">->
No problem for liaising between OSGeo and OTB. There is also
an OTB packages team on launchpad with contacts : <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://launchpad.net/%7Eotb">https://launchpad.net/~otb</a></span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">Regards,</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">Manuel<br>
</span></font><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2011/1/11 Manuel Grizonnet <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:manuel.grizonnet@gmail.com">manuel.grizonnet@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;
font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">Hi Johan,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I think that's some words in your answers are
missing... "it is already packaged and...???"</div>
</span><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div class="im">2011/1/11 Johan Van de Wauw <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:johan.vandewauw@gmail.com"
target="_blank">johan.vandewauw@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
padding-left: 1ex;">
Since
<div>
<div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div>On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Manuel
Grizonnet <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:manuel.grizonnet@gmail.com"
target="_blank">manuel.grizonnet@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:
0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid
rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>
<p><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">The
toolbox (and also related projects) are
also provided as binary packages for
Windows, Mac and recently also on Linux
Platforms. An OTB repository is
available on <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://launchpad.net"
target="_blank">launchpad.net</a> for
Ubuntu platforms (9.10,10.4,10.10) and
also for OpenSuse platforms. </font></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<div>it is already packaged and </div>
<div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:
0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid
rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>
<p><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">OTB
is under incubation for OSGeo Project. </font></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<div>I think it would be a very good idea to
include OTB on the live disk.</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br>
<br clear="all">
<br>
-- <br>
<font color="#888888">Manuel<br>
</font></blockquote>
</div>
<br>
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<br>
-- <br>
Manuel<br>
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