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Hi Manuel.<br>
<br>
The files are committed in svn now.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Angelos<br>
<br>
On 01/20/2011 06:00 PM, Manuel Grizonnet wrote:
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cite="mid:AANLkTi=KhFRDTkW_VFm63xYKTbitEW9xnLOJXwp-GL1m@mail.gmail.com"
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">Hi,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I wrote the Overview and QuickStart texts for the OTB
project in the frame of the next release of OSGeo live.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I don't know if I've got access to the SVN repository to
push the file (my OSGeo login is 'manuelgrizonnet'). </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>However, you can find the first version of the
documentation with also related logo/images here : <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/packages/svn_osgeolive_backup.tgz">http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/packages/svn_osgeolive_backup.tgz</a></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Do not hesitate if I made mistakes.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Manuel</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</span><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2011/1/14 Cameron Shorter <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cameron.shorter@lisasoft.com">cameron.shorter@lisasoft.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
padding-left: 1ex;">
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Thanks Manuel,<br>
I've change the name of the project in our spreadsheet to
"otb".<br>
<br>
This name, "otb" will be the acronym that you should use for
your install script and documentation, and our status
spreadsheets. We use a bit of excel magic to work out status
of docs and translations based upon this name.
<div>
<div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
On 14/01/11 20:04, Manuel Grizonnet wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Hi Cameron,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I addes an entry in the #Status document about
orfeo toolbox.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The install script for OTB will be very simple I
think :</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div style="font-family: monospace; white-space:
nowrap; text-align: left; clear: both; font-size:
medium;"> <i>sudo aptitude install add-apt-repository
<br>
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:otb/orfeotoolbox-stable</i></div>
<div style="font-family: monospace; white-space:
nowrap; text-align: left; clear: both; font-size:
medium;"> <i>sudo aptitude update </i></div>
<div style="font-family: monospace; white-space:
nowrap; text-align: left; clear: both; font-size:
medium;"><i>sudo aptitude install otb otbapp monteverdi</i></div>
<div style="font-family: monospace; white-space:
nowrap; text-align: left; clear: both; font-size:
medium;"><i><br>
</i></div>
<div style="font-family: monospace; white-space:
nowrap; text-align: left; clear: both; font-size:
medium;"> I'll send a script for orfeo based on
the mapserver script soon.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
Manuel</div>
<div><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2011/1/12 Cameron Shorter <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,
204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Thank you
Manual for these clarifications.<br>
<br>
I'm heartened by all your answers, and I'm +1
for including OTB on OSGeo-Live.<br>
Assuming that there are no other questions or
objections from our community, I'd encourage
you to start packaging OTB as per: <br>
<div> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project"
target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project</a><br>
<br>
</div>
If you wish to make the next release, can you
please aim to have install script and Overview
and Quickstart text complete by 31 January.
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
<br>
On 13/01/2011 4:41 AM, Manuel Grizonnet
wrote: </div>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<div>Hi all,
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">I answer
below to questions about OTB before
moving forward:<br>
<br>
1. OSGeo-Live is targeted at
applications that people can use
rather<br>
than libraries that are included
into other applications. Does ORFEO<br>
Toolbox have a user interface
(possibly command line interface)
that a<br>
user can interact with and try out
ORFEO Toolbox?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">->Yes
the software Monteverdi based on
OTB </span><span style="font-family:
verdana,'Lucida
Grande',arial,sans-serif; font-size:
13px; color: rgb(17, 17, 17);
line-height: 19px;">provide a user
interface and an architecture which
allows building processing chains by
selecting modules from a set of
menus. It supports raster and vector
dataThe architecture takes advantage
of the streaming and multi-threading
capabilities of the OTB pipeline. It
also uses cool features as
processing on demand and automagic
file format I/O. The application is
called Monteverdi, since this is the
name of the <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudio_Monteverdi"
style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;
color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"
target="_blank">Orfeo composer</a>.</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"> The
application is also packaged on
Ubuntu, you can find more
informations here : </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/otb/monteverdi.html"
target="_blank">http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/otb/monteverdi.html</a></div>
<div>Moreover the otb-app package
provides OTB processing chain (command
line interface) which are also
accessible through user interface
(standalone qt application or qgis
plugins) </div>
<div> <span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">2.
OSGeo-Live is memory and disk
constrained.</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">Can
ORFEO Toolbox run in 512 Meg or RAM?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"></span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">->Yes,
we already provide in the past Live
OTB which works on this type of
platforms. The application
monteverdi was developped in the
frame of capacity building
activities and it works on PC
with memory and disk constrained
(512 Mo of RAM is enough to run the
application and do basic
processing). <br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">How much
disk space will be required to
install ORFEO Toolbox and a</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">suitable
example application.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"></span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">->
otb package 10 Mo, monteverdi
package 10 Mo, otb-app 15 Mo<br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">What
datasets would be required for a
demonstration? Can you make use of</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">the
naturalearth dataset already
installed, or would you need
something</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">else?</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets"
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 204);"
target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets</a></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"></span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">-> I
do not know this dataset, I think
that we can use this dataset. We
provide also on our repository
extract of remote sensing data which
are used as examples in the software
guide and in the OTB tutorial. <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://hg.orfeo-toolbox.org/OTB-Data/"
target="_blank">http://hg.orfeo-toolbox.org/OTB-Data/</a></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">Our
documentation (description of
algorithms, input images, examples
and results) are automatically
generated each time when we update
the software guide to ensure that
results which appear in the
documentation are results provided
by the library.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">We can
pointed out interesting "Toy
example" if you want which will give
an overview of OTB functionnalities
on the Live DVD?<br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">3. You
mention that ORFEO is in OSGeo
incubation. I can't see ORFEO</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">listed
at</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"> </span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://osgeo.org"
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 204);"
target="_blank">http://osgeo.org</a></span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"> </span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">. Have
you started incubation, or are you
on</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">the
waiting list to start incubation?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"></span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">->
Sorry, I only open a ticket on the
OSGeo website to start the
incubation process for now...<br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">4.
Stability is very important to us on
OSGeo-Live. Do you have a bug</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">free,
stable release, which has been
rolled out to production in a</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">number
of locations?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"></span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">->
The last OTB release 3.8.0 and
monteverdi 1.6.0 are the latest
stable release. OTB validation is
mainly driven by a platform of
automatic tests (based on cmake,
ctest and cdash). The library is
continuously and intensively tests
on numerous platforms. There are
more than 1500 tests currently in
the library...</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://dash.orfeo-toolbox.org/index.php?project=OTB"
target="_blank">http://dash.orfeo-toolbox.org/index.php?project=OTB</a><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">5. I
notice the CeCILL licence you use is
not listed on OSI list of</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">licences.
Has license been discussed and
resolved on the</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">OSGeo-Incubation
list?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"></span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">-> I
am not aware of any discussions
about the licence, Cecill is a free
software license (adapted to french
legal matter) compatible with GPL : <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CeCILL"
target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CeCILL</a><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">6. Do
you have a person (maybe yourself?)
prepared to volunteer to be</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">the
OSGeo-Live representative, who will
take responsibility for liaising</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">between
the project and OSGeo-Live and make
sure that scripts and</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">documentation
are updated for each release.</span></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span
style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span
style="border-collapse: collapse;">->
No problem for liaising between
OSGeo and OTB. There is also an
OTB packages team on launchpad
with contacts : <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://launchpad.net/%7Eotb"
target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~otb</a></span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span
style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span
style="border-collapse: collapse;">Regards,</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span
style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span
style="border-collapse: collapse;">Manuel<br>
</span></font><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2011/1/11
Manuel Grizonnet <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:manuel.grizonnet@gmail.com"
target="_blank">manuel.grizonnet@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;
border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,
204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size:
13px; border-collapse:
collapse;">Hi Johan,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I think that's some words
in your answers are
missing... "it is already
packaged and...???"</div>
</span><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div>2011/1/11 Johan Van de Wauw
<span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:johan.vandewauw@gmail.com"
target="_blank">johan.vandewauw@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid
rgb(204, 204, 204);
padding-left: 1ex;"> Since
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div>On Tue, Jan 11,
2011 at 11:38 AM,
Manuel Grizonnet <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:manuel.grizonnet@gmail.com" target="_blank">manuel.grizonnet@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:
<blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
style="margin: 0pt
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solid rgb(204, 204,
204); padding-left:
1ex;">
<div>
<p><font
face="arial,
helvetica,
sans-serif">The
toolbox (and
also related
projects) are
also provided
as binary
packages for
Windows, Mac
and recently
also on Linux
Platforms. An
OTB repository
is available
on <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://launchpad.net" target="_blank">launchpad.net</a> for Ubuntu
platforms
(9.10,10.4,10.10)
and also for
OpenSuse
platforms. </font></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<div>it is already
packaged and </div>
<div>
<blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
style="margin: 0pt
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solid rgb(204, 204,
204); padding-left:
1ex;">
<div>
<p><font
face="arial,
helvetica,
sans-serif">OTB
is
under incubation
for OSGeo
Project. </font></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<div>I think it would be
a very good idea to
include OTB on the
live disk.</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br>
<br clear="all">
<br>
-- <br>
<font color="#888888">Manuel<br>
</font></blockquote>
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Manuel<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc</a></pre>
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Angelos Tzotsos
Remote Sensing Laboratory
National Technical University of Athens
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos">http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos</a></pre>
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