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    Hi Manuel.<br>
    <br>
    The files are committed in svn now.<br>
    <br>
    Best regards,<br>
    Angelos<br>
    <br>
    On 01/20/2011 06:00 PM, Manuel Grizonnet wrote:
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:AANLkTi=KhFRDTkW_VFm63xYKTbitEW9xnLOJXwp-GL1m@mail.gmail.com"
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      <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
        arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">Hi,
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I wrote the Overview and QuickStart texts for the OTB
          project in the frame of the next release of OSGeo live.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I don't know if I've got access to the SVN repository to
          push the file  (my OSGeo login is  'manuelgrizonnet').   </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>However, you can find the first version of the
          documentation with also related logo/images here : <a
            moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/packages/svn_osgeolive_backup.tgz">http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/packages/svn_osgeolive_backup.tgz</a></div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Do not hesitate if I made mistakes.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Regards,</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Manuel</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
      </span><br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">2011/1/14 Cameron Shorter <span
          dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:cameron.shorter@lisasoft.com">cameron.shorter@lisasoft.com</a>></span><br>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
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          <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Thanks Manuel,<br>
            I've change the name of the project in our spreadsheet to
            "otb".<br>
            <br>
            This name, "otb" will be the acronym that you should use for
            your install script and documentation, and our status
            spreadsheets. We use a bit of excel magic to work out status
            of docs and translations based upon this name.
            <div>
              <div class="h5"><br>
                <br>
                <br>
                On 14/01/11 20:04, Manuel Grizonnet wrote:
                <blockquote type="cite">Hi Cameron,
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>I addes an entry in the #Status document about
                    orfeo toolbox.</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>The install script for OTB  will be very simple I
                    think :</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div style="font-family: monospace; white-space:
                      nowrap; text-align: left; clear: both; font-size:
                      medium;"> <i>sudo aptitude install add-apt-repository
                         <br>
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:otb/orfeotoolbox-stable</i></div>
                    <div style="font-family: monospace; white-space:
                      nowrap; text-align: left; clear: both; font-size:
                      medium;"> <i>sudo aptitude update  </i></div>
                    <div style="font-family: monospace; white-space:
                      nowrap; text-align: left; clear: both; font-size:
                      medium;"><i>sudo aptitude install otb otbapp monteverdi</i></div>
                    <div style="font-family: monospace; white-space:
                      nowrap; text-align: left; clear: both; font-size:
                      medium;"><i><br>
                      </i></div>
                    <div style="font-family: monospace; white-space:
                      nowrap; text-align: left; clear: both; font-size:
                      medium;"> I'll send a script for orfeo based on
                      the mapserver script soon.</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Regards,</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    Manuel</div>
                  <div><br>
                    <div class="gmail_quote">2011/1/12 Cameron Shorter <span
                        dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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                        <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Thank you
                          Manual for these clarifications.<br>
                          <br>
                          I'm heartened by all your answers, and I'm +1
                          for including OTB on OSGeo-Live.<br>
                          Assuming that there are no other questions or
                          objections from our community, I'd encourage
                          you to start packaging OTB as per: <br>
                          <div> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project"
                              target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project</a><br>
                            <br>
                          </div>
                          If you wish to make the next release, can you
                          please aim to have install script and Overview
                          and Quickstart text complete by 31 January.
                          <div>
                            <div><br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              On 13/01/2011 4:41 AM, Manuel Grizonnet
                              wrote: </div>
                          </div>
                          <blockquote type="cite">
                            <div>
                              <div>Hi all,
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">I answer
                                    below to questions about OTB before
                                    moving forward:<br>
                                    <br>
                                    1. OSGeo-Live is targeted at
                                    applications that people can use
                                    rather<br>
                                    than libraries that are included
                                    into other applications. Does ORFEO<br>
                                    Toolbox have a user interface
                                    (possibly command line interface)
                                    that a<br>
                                    user can interact with and try out
                                    ORFEO Toolbox?</span></div>
                                <div><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                  </span></div>
                                <div><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">->Yes
                                    the software Monteverdi based on
                                    OTB </span><span style="font-family:
                                    verdana,'Lucida
                                    Grande',arial,sans-serif; font-size:
                                    13px; color: rgb(17, 17, 17);
                                    line-height: 19px;">provide a user
                                    interface and an architecture which
                                    allows building processing chains by
                                    selecting modules from a set of
                                    menus. It supports raster and vector
                                    dataThe architecture takes advantage
                                    of the streaming and multi-threading
                                    capabilities of the OTB pipeline. It
                                    also uses cool features as
                                    processing on demand and automagic
                                    file format I/O. The application is
                                    called Monteverdi, since this is the
                                    name of the <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudio_Monteverdi"
                                      style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;
                                      color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"
                                      target="_blank">Orfeo composer</a>.</span><span
                                    style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">  The
                                    application is also packaged on
                                    Ubuntu, you can find more
                                    informations here : </span><a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/otb/monteverdi.html"
                                    target="_blank">http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/otb/monteverdi.html</a></div>
                                <div>Moreover the otb-app package
                                  provides OTB processing chain (command
                                  line interface) which are also
                                  accessible through user interface
                                  (standalone qt application or qgis
                                  plugins) </div>
                                <div> <span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                  </span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">2.
                                    OSGeo-Live is memory and disk
                                    constrained.</span><span
                                    style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                  </span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">Can
                                    ORFEO Toolbox run in 512 Meg or RAM?</span></div>
                                <div><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                  </span></div>
                                <div><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"></span><span
                                    style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">->Yes,
                                    we already provide in the past Live
                                    OTB which works on this type of
                                    platforms. The application
                                    monteverdi was developped in the
                                    frame of capacity building
                                    activities and it works on PC
                                    with memory and disk constrained
                                    (512 Mo of RAM is enough to run the
                                    application and do basic
                                    processing). <br>
                                  </span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                  </span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">How much
                                    disk space will be required to
                                    install ORFEO Toolbox and a</span><span
                                    style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                  </span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">suitable
                                    example application.</span></div>
                                <div><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                  </span></div>
                                <div><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"></span><span
                                    style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">->
                                    otb package 10 Mo, monteverdi
                                    package 10 Mo, otb-app 15 Mo<br>
                                  </span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                  </span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">What
                                    datasets would be required for a
                                    demonstration? Can you make use of</span><span
                                    style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                  </span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">the
                                    naturalearth dataset already
                                    installed, or would you need
                                    something</span><span
                                    style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                  </span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">else?</span><span
                                    style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                  </span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets"
                                      style="color: rgb(0, 0, 204);"
                                      target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets</a></span></div>
                                <div><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                  </span></div>
                                <div><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"></span><span
                                    style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">-> I
                                    do not know this dataset, I think
                                    that we can use this dataset. We
                                    provide also on our repository
                                    extract of remote sensing data which
                                    are used as examples in the software
                                    guide and in the OTB tutorial. <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="http://hg.orfeo-toolbox.org/OTB-Data/"
                                      target="_blank">http://hg.orfeo-toolbox.org/OTB-Data/</a></span></div>
                                <div><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">Our
                                    documentation (description of
                                    algorithms, input images, examples
                                    and results) are automatically
                                    generated each time when we update
                                    the software guide to ensure that
                                    results which appear in the
                                    documentation are results provided
                                    by the library.</span></div>
                                <div><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">We can
                                    pointed out interesting "Toy
                                    example" if you want which will give
                                    an overview of OTB functionnalities
                                    on the Live DVD?<br>
                                  </span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                  </span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">3. You
                                    mention that ORFEO is in OSGeo
                                    incubation. I can't see ORFEO</span><span
                                    style="font-family:
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                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                  </span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">listed
                                    at</span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"> </span><span
                                    style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="http://osgeo.org"
                                      style="color: rgb(0, 0, 204);"
                                      target="_blank">http://osgeo.org</a></span><span
                                    style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"> </span><span
                                    style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">. Have
                                    you started incubation, or are you
                                    on</span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                  </span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">the
                                    waiting list to start incubation?</span></div>
                                <div><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                  </span></div>
                                <div><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"></span><span
                                    style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">->
                                    Sorry, I only open a ticket on the
                                    OSGeo website to start the
                                    incubation process for now...<br>
                                  </span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                  </span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">4.
                                    Stability is very important to us on
                                    OSGeo-Live. Do you have a bug</span><span
                                    style="font-family:
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                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                  </span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">free,
                                    stable release, which has been
                                    rolled out to production in a</span><span
                                    style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                  </span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">number
                                    of locations?</span></div>
                                <div><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                  </span></div>
                                <div><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"></span><span
                                    style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">->
                                    The last OTB release 3.8.0 and
                                    monteverdi 1.6.0 are the latest
                                    stable release. OTB validation is
                                    mainly driven by a platform of
                                    automatic tests (based on cmake,
                                    ctest and cdash). The library is
                                    continuously and intensively tests
                                    on numerous platforms. There are
                                    more than 1500 tests currently in
                                    the library...</span></div>
                                <div><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="http://dash.orfeo-toolbox.org/index.php?project=OTB"
                                      target="_blank">http://dash.orfeo-toolbox.org/index.php?project=OTB</a><br>
                                  </span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                  </span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">5. I
                                    notice the CeCILL licence you use is
                                    not listed on OSI list of</span><span
                                    style="font-family:
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                                  </span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">licences.


                                    Has license been discussed and
                                    resolved on the</span><span
                                    style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                  </span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">OSGeo-Incubation


                                    list?</span></div>
                                <div><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                  </span></div>
                                <div><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"></span><span
                                    style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">-> I
                                    am not aware of any discussions
                                    about the licence, Cecill is a free
                                    software license (adapted to french
                                    legal matter) compatible with GPL : <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CeCILL"
                                      target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CeCILL</a><br>
                                  </span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                  </span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">6. Do
                                    you have a person (maybe yourself?)
                                    prepared to volunteer to be</span><span
                                    style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                  </span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">the
                                    OSGeo-Live representative, who will
                                    take responsibility for liaising</span><span
                                    style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                  </span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">between
                                    the project and OSGeo-Live and make
                                    sure that scripts and</span><span
                                    style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                  </span><span style="font-family:
                                    arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                                    border-collapse: collapse;">documentation


                                    are updated for each release.</span></div>
                                <div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span
                                      style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                    </span></font></div>
                                <div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span
                                      style="border-collapse: collapse;">->
                                      No problem for liaising between
                                      OSGeo and OTB. There is also an
                                      OTB packages team on launchpad
                                      with contacts : <a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="https://launchpad.net/%7Eotb"
                                        target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~otb</a></span></font></div>
                                <div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span
                                      style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                    </span></font></div>
                                <div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span
                                      style="border-collapse: collapse;">Regards,</span></font></div>
                                <div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span
                                      style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
                                    </span></font></div>
                                <div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span
                                      style="border-collapse: collapse;">Manuel<br>
                                    </span></font><br>
                                  <div class="gmail_quote">2011/1/11
                                    Manuel Grizonnet <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:manuel.grizonnet@gmail.com"
                                        target="_blank">manuel.grizonnet@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
                                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                      style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;
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                                      204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
                                      <div><span style="font-family:
                                          arial,sans-serif; font-size:
                                          13px; border-collapse:
                                          collapse;">Hi Johan,
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>I think that's some words
                                            in your answers are
                                            missing... "it is already
                                            packaged and...???"</div>
                                        </span><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div class="gmail_quote">
                                        <div>2011/1/11 Johan Van de Wauw
                                          <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:johan.vandewauw@gmail.com"
                                              target="_blank">johan.vandewauw@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                          style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
                                          0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid
                                          rgb(204, 204, 204);
                                          padding-left: 1ex;"> Since
                                          <div>
                                            <div><br>
                                              <br>
                                              <div class="gmail_quote">
                                                <div>On Tue, Jan 11,
                                                  2011 at 11:38 AM,
                                                  Manuel Grizonnet <span
                                                    dir="ltr"><<a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:manuel.grizonnet@gmail.com" target="_blank">manuel.grizonnet@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                  wrote:
                                                  <blockquote
                                                    class="gmail_quote"
                                                    style="margin: 0pt
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                                                    204); padding-left:
                                                    1ex;">
                                                    <div>
                                                      <p><font
                                                          face="arial,
                                                          helvetica,
                                                          sans-serif">The

                                                          toolbox (and
                                                          also related
                                                          projects) are
                                                          also provided
                                                          as binary
                                                          packages for
                                                          Windows, Mac
                                                          and recently
                                                          also on Linux
                                                          Platforms. An
                                                          OTB repository
                                                          is available
                                                          on <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://launchpad.net" target="_blank">launchpad.net</a> for Ubuntu
                                                          platforms
                                                          (9.10,10.4,10.10)
                                                          and also for
                                                          OpenSuse
                                                          platforms. </font></p>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </blockquote>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>it is already
                                                  packaged and </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <blockquote
                                                    class="gmail_quote"
                                                    style="margin: 0pt
                                                    0pt 0pt 0.8ex;
                                                    border-left: 1px
                                                    solid rgb(204, 204,
                                                    204); padding-left:
                                                    1ex;">
                                                    <div>
                                                      <p><font
                                                          face="arial,
                                                          helvetica,
                                                          sans-serif">OTB

                                                          is
                                                          under incubation
                                                          for OSGeo
                                                          Project. </font></p>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </blockquote>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>I think it would be
                                                  a very good idea to
                                                  include OTB on the
                                                  live disk.</div>
                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                          </div>
                                        </blockquote>
                                      </div>
                                      <br>
                                      <br clear="all">
                                      <br>
                                      -- <br>
                                      <font color="#888888">Manuel<br>
                                      </font></blockquote>
                                  </div>
                                  <br>
                                  <br clear="all">
                                  <br>
                                  -- <br>
                                  Manuel<br>
                                </div>
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Geospatial Solutions Manager
Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254

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                    </div>
                    <br>
                    <br clear="all">
                    <br>
                    -- <br>
                    Manuel<br>
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Geospatial Director
Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254

Think Globally, Fix Locally
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      <br>
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      <br>
      -- <br>
      Manuel<br>
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Remote Sensing Laboratory
National Technical University of Athens
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