<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Thank you very much Alex and Cameron for your reply, thoughts and ideas!<br><br>Yes, GISVM will keep pace with main Ubuntu line, specially with it's VM distro version.<br>GISVM BASE was first built on late 2009, but I never announced it to the general public.<br>This year I have just pick-it up where I left it and decided to announce it.<br><br>From now on I am decided to keep GISVM alive and make it sustainable!<br>So, the main objective now is to create a business model to support the project.<br>Apart from GISVM BASE distro, we are aiming to provide GISVM based products/services with added value for users who are willing to pay for it.<br>We are working on it, and soon will start to announce some of those products.<br><br>And that's how GISVM distinguish from OSGeo Live... apart from being exclusively
dedicated and optimized for Virtualization!<br><br>But GISVM is committed to continue be a FREE & OS project! So we will keep collaborating with this Live project and appreciate contribution from everyone on the OS GIS world.<br> <br>Cheers,<br>Ricardo Pinho<br><br><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><br><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:8pt"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">De:</span></b> Alex Mandel <tech_dev@wildintellect.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Para:</span></b> live-demo@lists.osgeo.org<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Enviadas:</span></b> Sexta-feira, 8 de Abril de 2011 21:38:42<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Assunto:</span></b> Re: Res: [Live-demo] [Annouce] GISVM Base<br></font><br>The biggest difference I can think of right now is base distro. As<br>OSGeo-live intends to probably only use
x.04 releases and will likely<br>stick to Xubuntu as the base. Is GISVM using the main Ubuntu line as the<br>default, I did see your latest release was 10.10 based? Another point of<br>differentiation could be the inclusion of LibreOffice (I'm suggesting it<br>if it isn't in GISVM) which is too big for our target size.<br><br>At the core, while we offer a VM it isn't really our intention to create<br>a GIS workstation suitable for daily use by a GIS professional (though<br>it can be used that way). That seems to be more of the target of the GISVM.<br><br>I use OSGeo Live for demonstration, uniformity in a teaching environment<br>and to introduce people to getting used to the idea of running a linux<br>GIS workstation.<br><br>So it seems to me that one way for GISVM to stand out is if it is a full<br>install of everything the workstation user might want (Office, Latex,<br>Inkscape,GIMP, all of R Spatial Task View, etc) but not all the server<br>packages
which as I recall you had a separate Sever VM for.<br><br>Just some ideas to kick around.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Alex<br><br><br>On 04/08/2011 01:17 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:<br>> Hi all,<br>> Confirming Richardo's comments, Richardo was a huge driving force behind<br>> the success of our first major release of OSGeo-Live at FOSS4G 2009,<br>> providing lots of valuable advice on packaging and developing on virtual<br>> machines. We were privileged to have Richard as part of our team.<br>> <br>> I'm still unclear on how a GISVM should distinguish itself from<br>> OSGeo-Live, (as OSGeo-Live also provides a Virtual Machine), and I have<br>> answered some of Richardo's questions to me on this in a separate thread.<br>> <br>> <br>> On 09/04/11 03:34, Ricardo Pinho wrote:<br>>> Hi everyone,<br>>><br>>> After several people asking about the differences between GISVM and<br>>> OSGeo Live projects, I must
clarify some points, specially to the<br>>> members of this list.<br>>><br>>> As some of you probably know, GISVM concept was used, with my direct<br>>> participation, on the building process of FOSS4G 2009 LiveDVD<br>>> (Arramagong). Since then, that concept is used for building the OSGeo<br>>> Live, that resulted on the LiveDVD for FOSS4G 2010 and is growing fast<br>>> with excellent results.<br>>><br>>> GISVM was launched in 2008, an independent project, not sponsored by<br>>> OSGeo, and is dedicated exclusive for providing "Virtual Machines" for<br>>> Open Source GIS users.<br>>><br>>> These different goals results on completely different products!<br>>><br>>> But, these two projects have much in common, and can help each other.<br>>><br>>> Just like GISVM helped OSGeo to build it's LiveDVD.<br>>> GISVM can receive help from OSGeo Live by
being able to use their huge<br>>> number of install scripts.<br>>><br>>> And I can see several other ways of collaboration.<br>>><br>>> For start, I would suggest to all "install script" developers to use<br>>> "GISVM Base" for creating and testing their scrips.<br>>> If it works on GISVM Base it will probably work on OSGeo Live.<br>>><br>>> To include your applications on GISVM Base, it is as simple as<br>>> adapting your current OSGeo Live install script.<br>>><br>>> GISVM is a GPL Free project and is hosted by sourgeforge:<br>>> <a href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/gisvm/" target="_blank">http://sourceforge.net/projects/gisvm/</a><br>>> The current Base scripts are available at:<br>>> <a href="http://gisvm.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/gisvm/branches/gisvm1010base/"
target="_blank">http://gisvm.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/gisvm/branches/gisvm1010base/</a><br>>><br>>> If you want to participate on it, just contact me.<br>>> Your contribution will be much appreciated!<br>>><br>>> Cheers,<br>>> Ricardo Pinho<br>>> <a href="http://gisvm.com" target="_blank">http://gisvm.com</a><br>>><br>>><br>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>>> *De:* Ricardo Pinho <<a ymailto="mailto:rpinho_eng@yahoo.com.br" href="mailto:rpinho_eng@yahoo.com.br">rpinho_eng@yahoo.com.br</a>><br>>> *Para:* <a ymailto="mailto:live-demo@lists.osgeo.org" href="mailto:live-demo@lists.osgeo.org">live-demo@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>>> *Enviadas:* Quinta-feira, 7 de Abril de 2011 1:40:38<br>>> *Assunto:* [Live-demo] [Annouce] GISVM Base<br>>><br>>> Dear all,<br>>> We are proud to announce the new “GISVM
BASE”.<br>>> Available now for FREE DOWNLOAD at: <a href="http://gisvm.com" target="_blank">http://gisvm.com</a> <<a href="http://gisvm.com/" target="_blank">http://gisvm.com/</a>><br>>><br>>> GISVM ("GIS Virtual Machine") is a Ubuntu Linux distribution for GIS<br>>> users, packaged as a virtual machine, a completely isolated computer<br>>> that can be run in a window inside your current operating system.<br>>><br>>> This new BASE edition, based on a minimum Ubuntu 10.10 installation,<br>>> provides the user with simple Double Click install scripts for an<br>>> unlimited possible number of open-source GIS packages.This way, users<br>>> are FREE to build their own GISVM by installing the desired GIS packages.<br>>><br>>> By the time of this announcement these are the available install scripts:<br>>> - Quantum GIS / Grass<br>>> - uDIG<br>>> -
gvSIG<br>>> - OpenJump<br>>> - Kosmo<br>>> - R<br>>> - GeoServer<br>>> - GeoMajas<br>>><br>>> We plan to keep adding more install scripts, depending on the users<br>>> feedback and request.<br>>><br>>> PLEASE REGISTER ON THE GISVM USER MAILLING LIST and help us improve<br>>> this new version:<br>>> <a href="https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gisvm-users" target="_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gisvm-users</a><br>>><br>>> We would also appreciate it if you SPREAD THE WORD. Put it in your<br>>> blog, forum, facebook, twitter, webpage, and so on.<br>>><br>>> Thank you,<br>>> Ricardo Pinho<br>>><br>_______________________________________________<br>Live-demo mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org" href="mailto:Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org">Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><a
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