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Jon, I'm CCing the OSGeo-Live list, as there are others who may
correct my statements re Java installing.<br>
<br>
On 17/05/2011 6:22 PM, Jon Blower wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Hi Cameron,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">I would hope that this can be done, certainly I
hope the code will be ready by then. Whether I have time to
finish the documentation before fourth of July may be
another matter – can the final documentation wait until
first of August?</span></p>
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<br>
We are aiming to have English docs complete by 18 July, in order to
give translators sufficient time to translate and review before
release.<br>
<br>
The images for the docs can be inserted a bit later.<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">I've just been reading some of the instructions
and have a couple of questions:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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73, 125);"><span style="">1.<span style="font: 7pt
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:
11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">ncWMS is packaged as a standard Java web
application (WAR file), as is THREDDS. Does the live DVD
already include a web application server like tomcat?</span></p>
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<br>
There are a number of applications which run inside a servlet
container. Have a look at the install scripts for geoserver and
geonetwork (which I believe use jetty). I'm pretty sure geomajas
runs in a servlet container too.<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/livedvd/gisvm/trunk/bin/">https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/livedvd/gisvm/trunk/bin/</a><br>
<br>
My understanding is that we set up a separate servelet container for
each application, rather than running all applications inside the
same servelet container.<br>
This is because the LiveDVD is RAM constrained, and having multiple
applications running in a servlet container at the same time uses up
RAM.<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:
11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Out-of-the-box, ncWMS expects the
user/administrator to do some configuration in order to add
some datasets, also to configure things such as a disk
cache. Should I package version in which this is already
preconfigured, perhaps to avoid writing data to the local
disk as suggested in the instructions?</span></p>
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Yes, the aim for the DVD is to have an application which is
"installed and ready to run", using datasets which are already on
the DVD.<br>
You probably don't want to install all datasets, as one of the tasks
that you may wish to include in a quickstart is loading a dataset.<br>
I'm interested to know what types of datasets would be appropriate,
and whether we already have something suitable, possibly installed
for the rasdaman project.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Jon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:
windowtext;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:
windowtext;" lang="EN-US"> Cameron Shorter
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 May 2011 00:37<br>
<b>To:</b> Jon Blower<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ncwms-users@lists.sourceforge.net">ncwms-users@lists.sourceforge.net</a>; Ethan
Davis (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:edavis@unidata.ucar.edu">edavis@unidata.ucar.edu</a>)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ncwms-users] ncwms to be included
on OSGeo-Live?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Jon,<br>
Great to hear your interest. I agree that it would be good to
have the 1.0 release built before installing on OSGeo-Live.
I'm hoping to have ncWMS and THREDDS on our next release of
OSGeo-Live. Do you think that is possible? Do you think that
you can have 1.0 released the upcoming OSGeo-Live feature
freeze on 4 July. (Preferably a week or more before that
date). It is acceptable to have a Release Candidate by that
date, so long as the final version, with all bugs fixed, is
completed by 1 August.<br>
<br>
Ethan,<br>
I'm interested to hear your thoughts on the same questions for
THREDDS.<br>
<br>
On 16/05/2011 10:43 PM, Jon Blower wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";">Hi Cameron,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";">We talked about
this briefly just before Christmas. I'd be very interested
in doing this but I think it will be best to wait for a full
1.0 release of ncWMS first. I am not being quick to produce
this due to lack of cycles but I hope it won't be too long.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";">I am copying
Ethan Davis as he may be able to comment on the THREDDS
front. It may be that the best thing to do is to bundle a
version of THREDDS that has ncWMS built-in. One issue may
be identifying some sample datasets that can be freely
distributed on the live DVD.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";">Best wishes,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";">Jon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:
windowtext;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:
windowtext;" lang="EN-US"> Cameron Shorter [<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 08 May 2011 22:03<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ncwms-users@lists.sourceforge.net">ncwms-users@lists.sourceforge.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Ncwms-users] ncwms to be included on
OSGeo-Live?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I help coordinate the packaging of
OSGeo-Live, which is a marketing DVD of pre-configured Open
Source GeoSpatial applications on a DVD handed out at Spatial
conferences around the world. It also contains consistent
documentation which is now being translated into multiple
languages. (Also available here: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://live.osgeo.org">
http://live.osgeo.org</a> )<br>
<br>
Some of our DVD users have suggested that it would be great to
see ncwms included on this DVD. As such, I'm reaching out to
see if there is an interest from the ncwms community.<br>
<br>
The process for including a package on OSGeoLive is explained
here:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project</a><br>
<br>
I'm interested to hear thoughts or answer questions from ncwms
developers about the process.<br>
<br>
On 08/05/11 20:12, Cameron Shorter wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We are starting to build the 5.0 <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://live.osgeo.org"
title="http://live.osgeo.org">
OSGeo-Live</a> DVD which will be released at <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://2011.foss4g.org/"
title="http://2011.foss4g.org/">
FOSS4G 2011</a> this September where it will be handed out
to all delegates. We would like to hear from anyone wishing to
add new projects to OSGeo-Live, anyone who would like to use
OSGeo-Live in workshops, tutorials or similar, or anyone who
has ideas on how we should shape the upcoming release. <a
moz-do-not-send="true" name="Which_project_version.3F"
id="Which_project_version.3F">
</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<h2><span class="mw-headline">Which project version?</span><o:p></o:p></h2>
<p>Could each installed project please update our status sheet
to note the expected version to be installed on OSGeo-Live
5.0.
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdGIzd0VLLTBpQVJuNVlHMlBWSDhKLXc&hl=en_GB#gid=8"
title="https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdGIzd0VLLTBpQVJuNVlHMlBWSDhKLXc&hl=en_GB#gid=8">
Status sheet</a>. <o:p></o:p></p>
<h2><a moz-do-not-send="true"
name="Key_Priorities_for_next_release"
id="Key_Priorities_for_next_release"></a><span
class="mw-headline">Key Priorities for next release</span><o:p></o:p></h2>
<p class="MsoNormal">Disk Space <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;">We are reaching
DVD size limits, and need to be creative about saving space
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Package Updates <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;">Update and test
latest stable software releases
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Quickstart Reviews <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;">We have Project
Quickstarts, but many haven't gone through comprehensive
review yet.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Translations <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;">We have varying
levels of translations, and would like to increase that.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Testing <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;">With Quality
being a key focus area for us, we need lots of help with
testing.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<h2><a moz-do-not-send="true" name="Key_Milestones"
id="Key_Milestones"></a><span class="mw-headline">Key
Milestones</span><o:p></o:p></h2>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;">04 Jul 2011
Feature Freeze <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;">01 Aug 2011 User
Acceptance Test (all Apps installed and working)
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;">22 Aug 2011
Final ISO sent to printers
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;">12 Sep 2011
FOSS4G 2011 <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE&hl=en_GB"
title="http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE&hl=en_GB">...
full schedule</a>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<h2><a moz-do-not-send="true" name="About_OSGeo-Live"
id="About_OSGeo-Live"></a><span class="mw-headline">About
OSGeo-Live</span><o:p></o:p></h2>
<p>OSGeo-live is an <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://xubuntu.org" title="http://xubuntu.org">XUbuntu</a>
based distribution of Geospatial Open Source Software,
available via a Live DVD, Virtual Machine, and USB. You can
use OSGeo-Live to try a wide variety of open source geospatial
software without installing anything. <o:p></o:p></p>
<h2><a moz-do-not-send="true" name="Contact_Us.3F"
id="Contact_Us.3F"></a><span class="mw-headline">Contact Us?</span><o:p></o:p></h2>
<p>Mailing List: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo"
title="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo">
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Website: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://live.osgeo.org" title="http://live.osgeo.org">http://live.osgeo.org</a>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Wiki: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc"
title="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc">
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>or contact me directly <o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre>Think Globally, Fix Locally<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254<o:p></o:p></pre>
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Cameron Shorter
Geospatial Solutions Manager
Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
Think Globally, Fix Locally
Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.lisasoft.com">http://www.lisasoft.com</a>
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