<div>2011/8/2 Alex Mandel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tech_dev@wildintellect.com">tech_dev@wildintellect.com</a>></span></div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Peter,<br>
<br>
It's a compromise to satisfy the needs of osgeo-live being able to run<br>
without internet access.</blockquote><div> </div><div>Big point! In organisations with firewalls and proxies it can be hard to get the xubuntu configured well, even for first time xubuntu/unix users.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Also I believe the standards overview pages are<br>
actually written by OGC as a human readable summary which of course can<br>
include the read more online links. I don't know how many OGC specs<br>
you've tried to read but if I didn't have wikipedia summaries I'm not<br>
sure I'd understand what many of them are. Keep in mind the disc is many<br>
people's 1st exposure to the Geospatial world not just FOSS.<br></blockquote><div> </div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ">I'm <a href="http://www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/right.html" style="color: black; text-decoration: none; ">right</a> <a href="http://www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/there.html" style="color: black; text-decoration: none; ">there</a> <a href="http://www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/with.html" style="color: black; text-decoration: none; ">with</a> you. The description in the standard overview documents gives the user, who get first time in touch with FOSS(4G) and GIS Standards itself, a short summary and additional references to the original documents at <a href="http://opengeospatial.org">opengeospatial.org</a></span></div>
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Thanks,<br>
Alex<br>
<div class="im"><br>
On 08/01/2011 03:43 PM, Peter Baumann wrote:<br>
> Frank, Cameron-<br>
><br>
> while I appreciate the idea of homogenization, to me it seems more<br>
> natural to keep references to the standards: if I read a linked "OGC<br>
> WCS" I'd expect a link to OGC WCS. The OSGeo description page is a<br>
> paraphrasing of the standards texts, but not authoritative.<br>
><br>
> my 2 cents,<br>
> Peter<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On 08/02/2011 12:38 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:<br>
>> Frank,<br>
>> I suspect these proposals are a good idea, but as yet I'm unclear<br>
>> about what we gain by changing the way to use hyperlinks.<br>
>><br>
>> I'd really like to revisit your suggestions as we move into the next<br>
>> release, but as we are getting close to this release, and as<br>
>> translators are working like mad translating the English docs, we<br>
>> should be doing our best to keep the English docs as static as<br>
>> possible, and only change the English docs if we find something wrong.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 01/08/11 22:25, Frank Gasdorf wrote:<br>
>>> @Cameron, this step will help us to harmonize<br>
</div>>>> <<a href="http://www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/harmonize.html" target="_blank">http://www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/harmonize.html</a>> the cross<br>
<div class="im">>>> references to the standard overview documents.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Today (revision 6683 : <a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/6683" target="_blank">https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/6683</a>) I<br>
>>> updated geoserver_overview and there you can see the :doc: directives<br>
>>> (in Implemented Standards section) which uses the headline from the<br>
>>> overview page itself.<br>
>>><br>
>>> :doc:`<../standards/wms_overview>` and<br>
>>> :doc:`Web Map Service (WMS) <../standards/wms_overview>`<br>
>>><br>
>>> will result into <a href="">Web Map Standard (WMS)</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> In my opinion we should update it to :doc: instead of relative links<br>
>>> with html string in it like to one of the two mentioned above:<br>
>>> `Web Map Service (WMS) <../standards/wms_overview.html>`_<br>
>>><br>
>>> We should also grep in all rst file (except the on in standards sub<br>
>>> folder) for links to the opengeospatial standards links like :<br>
>>> <a href="http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/wms" target="_blank">http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/wms</a><br>
>>> <a href="http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/wfs" target="_blank">http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/wfs</a> and so on<br>
>>> and replace these with a OSGeo standard overview page link (:doc:`Web<br>
>>> Map Service (WMS) <../standards/wms_overview>`). All abbreviation<br>
>>> without a link could be update too.<br>
>>><br>
>>> If you need any help to update the rst docs let me know....<br>
>>><br>
>>> A second enhancement from my point of view: Add a link from each<br>
>>> standard page to the standards (overview) page to get an overview and<br>
>>> a context for the user. Would you agree?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Cheers, Frank<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> 2011/8/1 Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a><br>
</div>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>><br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5">>>><br>
>>> Byron Cochrane has been building a valuable cross reference, listing<br>
>>> servers and clients to the common OGC standards. I've copied it<br>
>>> into the<br>
>>> spreadsheet at [1], and intend to copy into a table in the<br>
>>> OSGeo-Live<br>
>>> docs, inside our section on standards.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Could all projects please have a look, and correct any mistakes<br>
>>> in the<br>
>>> spreadsheet.<br>
>>><br>
>>> [1]<br>
>>><br>
>>> <a href="https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdGIzd0VLLTBpQVJuNVlHMlBWSDhKLXc&hl=en_GB#gid=10" target="_blank">https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdGIzd0VLLTBpQVJuNVlHMlBWSDhKLXc&hl=en_GB#gid=10</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> <<a href="https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdGIzd0VLLTBpQVJuNVlHMlBWSDhKLXc&hl=en_GB#gid=10" target="_blank">https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdGIzd0VLLTBpQVJuNVlHMlBWSDhKLXc&hl=en_GB#gid=10</a>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> I'll copy the contents from the online spreadsheet into<br>
>>> subversion in a<br>
>>> couple of days, on 3 August 2011.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Below is a copy from the spreadsheet into email ...<br>
>>><br>
>>> Web Services:<br>
>>> ============<br>
>>><br>
>>> 52nSOS SOS<br>
>>> 52nWPS WPS<br>
>>> 52nWSS<br>
>>> atlasstyler<br>
>>> deegree WMS WFS WCS CSW WPS SOS<br>
>>> gdal<br>
>>> geokettle<br>
>>> geomajas<br>
>>> geomoose<br>
>>> geonetwork WMS WFS WCS CSW<br>
>>> geopublisher<br>
>>> geoserver WMS WFS WCS<br>
>>> gmt<br>
>>> gpsdrive<br>
>>> grass<br>
>>> gvsig<br>
>>> kosmo<br>
>>> libLAS<br>
>>> mapbender<br>
>>> mapfish<br>
>>> mapguide WMS WFS<br>
>>> mapnik<br>
>>> mapproxy WMS WMTS<br>
>>> mapserver WMS WFS WCS<br>
>>> maptiler<br>
>>> marble<br>
>>> mb-system<br>
>>> openjump<br>
>>> openlayers<br>
>>> opencpn<br>
>>> optics<br>
>>> osm<br>
>>> osgearth<br>
>>> ossim<br>
>>> otb<br>
>>> pgrouting<br>
>>> postgis<br>
>>> prune<br>
>>> qgis<br>
>>> qgis_mapserver WMS<br>
>>> R<br>
>>> rasdaman WCS WPS<br>
>>> saga<br>
>>> sahana<br>
>>> spatialite<br>
>>> tinyows WFS<br>
>>> udig<br>
>>> ushahidi<br>
>>> viking<br>
>>> zygrib<br>
>>> zoo-project WPS<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> ======================================<br>
>>><br>
>>> Web Clients:<br>
>>> ==========<br>
>>> 52nSOS<br>
>>> 52nWPS<br>
>>> 52nWSS<br>
>>> atlasstyler<br>
>>> deegree WMS WFS WCS<br>
>>> gdal<br>
>>> geokettle WFS CSW SOS<br>
>>> geomajas WMS WFS WCS CSW<br>
>>> geomoose WMS<br>
>>> geonetwork WMS WFS WCS CSW<br>
>>> geopublisher<br>
>>> geoserver<br>
>>> gmt<br>
>>> gpsdrive<br>
>>> grass<br>
>>> gvsig WMS WFS WCS CSW<br>
>>> kosmo WMS WFS<br>
>>> libLAS<br>
>>> mapbender WMS WFS<br>
>>> mapfish WMS WFS<br>
>>> mapguide WMS WFS<br>
>>> mapnik<br>
>>> mapproxy<br>
>>> mapserver WMS WFS<br>
>>> maptiler<br>
>>> marble<br>
>>> mb-system<br>
>>> openjump WMS WFS<br>
>>> openlayers WMS WFS WMTS<br>
>>> opencpn<br>
>>> optics<br>
>>> osm<br>
>>> osgearth<br>
>>> ossim<br>
>>> otb<br>
>>> pgrouting<br>
>>> postgis<br>
>>> prune<br>
>>> qgis WMS WFS<br>
>>> qgis_mapserver<br>
>>> R<br>
>>> rasdaman<br>
>>> saga<br>
>>> sahana<br>
>>> spatialite<br>
>>> tinyows<br>
>>> udig WMS WFS<br>
>>> ushahidi<br>
>>> viking<br>
>>> zygrib<br>
>>> zoo-project<br>
>>><br>
>>> -- Cameron Shorter<br>
>>> Geospatial Solutions Manager<br>
>>> Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050<br>
>>> Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254<br>
>>><br>
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>>><br>
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