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Thank you Cameron for the suggestion, <br>
<br>
We would be happy to include stable version 1.0 of pycsw to the disk
:)<br>
<br>
This version is already tested in OSGeoLive 5.5beta1 and works fine.<br>
In case we decide to officially include it, we just need to link the
documentation files and translate.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Angelos<br>
<br>
On 01/29/2012 12:32 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
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Angelos, Tom,<br>
<br>
In preparing for osgeolive 5.0, I suggested that pycsw was
probably not mature enough to be included in OSGeo-Live.<br>
<br>
I'm interested to understand how the project has matured since
then.<br>
If the project is ready, we will need to quickly review and update
the documentation so it can be translated.<br>
<br>
On 27/04/11 18:34, Cameron Shorter wrote:
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Angelos,<br>
It is great to see interest from pycsw in joining the OSGeo-Live
stable of quality applications.<br>
<br>
My initial feeling is that it would be great to include pywcs in
a future release of OSGeo-Live, but as pywcs is still only at a
0.1 release, without wide uptake yet, it is premature to include
pywcs into the next OSGeo-Live release.<br>
<br>
I believe that we have developed a reputation that if an
application has been deployed on OSGeo-Live, then someone can
expect that it has been deployed in many different locations,
and tested by many different organisations. Hence, users can be
confident that they will be unlikely to uncover any bugs by
running standard operations.<br>
<br>
Feel free to suggest that I have mis-read the project, or argue
otherwise.<br>
<br>
One option that we could potentially consider is including a
pywcs install script on the DVD, but not call the install script
from our main.sh install script. This would mean that pywcs
would not be installed on OSGeo-Live, but it would be easy to
run the pywcs install script and get pywcs installed if required
by an expert. Would this be of interest?<br>
<br>
On 26/04/2011 9:06 AM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
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<div class="" id="magicdomid2"><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">Hi all,</span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid3"><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">On behalf of the pycsw
development team, I would like to ask if we can include
our project in OSGeoLive 5.0.</span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid4"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid5"><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">I am providing requested
answers below:</span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid6"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid7">
<ul class="list-bullet2">
<li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> Please
describe your application. </span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid8">
<ul class="list-bullet3">
<ul>
<li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> What is its
name? </span></li>
</ul>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid9"><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">pycsw</span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid10"><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> </span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid11">
<ul class="list-bullet3">
<ul>
<li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> What is the
home page URL?</span></li>
</ul>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid12"><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2 url"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://pycsw.org/">http://pycsw.org/</a></span><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> </span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid13"><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> </span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid14">
<ul class="list-bullet3">
<ul>
<li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> Which OSI
approved Open Source Licence is used? </span></li>
</ul>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid15"><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">MIT</span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid16"><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> </span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid17">
<ul class="list-bullet3">
<ul>
<li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> What does
the application do and how does it add value to the
GeoSpatial stack of software? </span></li>
</ul>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid18"> <span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">pycsw is an OGC CSW
server implementation written in Python.</span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid19"><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">pycsw implements clause
10 (HTTP protocol binding (Catalogue Services for the Web,
CSW)) of the OpenGIS Catalogue Service Implementation
Specification, version 2.0.2. </span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid20"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid21"><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">We believe that pycsw
would be a good addition for the LiveDVD, since it
provides a lightweight</span><span
class="author-g-2ur48mz122zeqj7dx2uo">, standalone</span><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> alternative to current
Java-based, CSW server implementations. </span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid22"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid23">
<ul class="list-bullet2">
<li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> Stability is
very important to us on OSGeo-Live. If a new user
finds a bug in one application, it will tarnish the
reputation of all other OSGeo-Live applications as
well. Do you have a bug free, stable release, which
has been rolled out to production in a number of
locations? Please discuss the level of testing that
your project has gone through, the size of the
community that uses the application, and how long the
project has had mature code.</span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid24"><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">Currently pycsw is in
beta stage, but the latest 0.1.0 release is considered
pretty stable.</span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid25"><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">As a standalone CSW
server implementation, pycsw passes 100% the OGC Cite
tests for this release</span><span
class="author-g-2ur48mz122zeqj7dx2uo">. CITE tests are
run daily</span><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">. </span><span
class="author-g-2ur48mz122zeqj7dx2uo"> Additional tests
are also provided with the source code which are tested
before release. </span><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">This latest release is
well tested, but not currently </span><span
class="author-g-2ur48mz122zeqj7dx2uo">deployed to </span><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">a production </span><span
class="author-g-2ur48mz122zeqj7dx2uo">e</span><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">n</span><span
class="author-g-2ur48mz122zeqj7dx2uo">vironment</span><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">. Demo web pages can be
found here: </span><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2
url"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://pycsw.org/demos.html">http://pycsw.org/demos.html</a></span><span
class="author-g-2ur48mz122zeqj7dx2uo">.</span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid26"><span
class="author-g-2ur48mz122zeqj7dx2uo"> </span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid27"><span
class="author-g-2ur48mz122zeqj7dx2uo"> The pycsw community
is relatively new, and there is growing interest given the
release of 0.1.0.</span><span
class="author-g-8riyxoklomrf9u9y"> pycsw integrates with
other foss4g packages (i.e. OWSLib), and is already being
integrated in various interoperability demonstrations (CSW
<-> WPS integration with the ZOO project).</span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid28"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid29"><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> </span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid30">
<ul class="list-bullet2">
<li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> OSGeo-Live is
targeted at applications that people can use rather
than libraries. Does the application have a user
interface (possibly a command line interface) that a
user can interact with? </span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid31"><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">pycsw is a web service
(implementation of OGC CSW standard). Currently it does
not include client code (internally uses OWS</span><span
class="author-g-8riyxoklomrf9u9y">L</span><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">ib in cases needed).
There are some tester web pages (</span><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2 url"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://pycsw.org/demos.html%29">http://pycsw.org/demos.html)</a></span><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> that are also included
in a clean setup.</span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid32"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid33">
<ul class="list-bullet2">
<li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> We give
preference to OSGeo Incubated Projects, or Projects
which are presented at FOSS4G conferences. If your
project is involved in OSGeo Incubation, or has been
selected to be presented at FOSS4G, then please
mention it. </span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid34"><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">We are a new project,
and didn't have the chance yet to apply for OSGeo
Incubation or get involved in a FOSS4G conference, but we
hope to do so in the future :)</span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid35"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid36">
<ul class="list-bullet2">
<li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> With around
50 applications installed on OSGeo-Live, us core
packagers do not have the time to liaise with every
single project email list for each OSGeo-Live
release. So we require a volunteer (or two) to take
responsibility for liaising between OSGeo-Live and the
project's communities. This volunteer will be
responsible for ensuring the install scripts and
English documentation are updated by someone for each
OSGeo-Live release. Also test that the installed
application and Quickstart documentation works as
expected on release candidate releases of OSGeo-Live.
Who will act as the project's liaison person. </span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid37"><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">I would be happy to act
in the requested role, as I am already involved in the
OSGeoLive project.</span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid38"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid39">
<ul class="list-bullet2">
<li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> OSGeo-Live is
Ubuntu Linux based. Our installation preference is: </span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid40">
<ul class="list-bullet2">
<ul>
<li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> Install
from UbuntuGIS or DebianGIS </span></li>
</ul>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid41">
<ul class="list-bullet2">
<ul>
<li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> Install
.deb files from a PPA </span></li>
</ul>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid42">
<ul class="list-bullet2">
<ul>
<li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> Write a
custom install script </span></li>
</ul>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid44"><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> Can you please
discuss how your application will be installed.</span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid45"><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> </span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid46"><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">At this moment, we have
rpm packages for openSUSE and plan to create deb packages
for Ubuntu. Until then, we can create an installation
script (</span><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2 url"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://pycsw.org/installation.html">http://pycsw.org/installation.html</a></span><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> ) </span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid47"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid48">
<ul class="list-bullet2">
<li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> We include
Windows and Mac installers for some applications.
Would you be wishing to include Windows and/or Mac
installers?</span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid49"><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">Not at this point.
Perhaps in the future releases</span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid50"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid51">
<ul class="list-bullet2">
<li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> OSGeo-Live is
memory and disk constrained. Can the application run
in 512 Meg of RAM? </span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid52"><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">Yes, pycsw can easily
run even in 256 Meg of RAM under Apache Web Server</span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid53"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid54">
<ul class="list-bullet2">
<li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> How much disk
space will be required to install the application and
a suitable example application? </span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid55"><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">pycsw by itself only
occupies ~2Mb of disk space. Its dependencies though
(lxml, sqlalchemy, shapely), can occupy a bit more disk
space if not already included in OSGeoLive already.</span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid56"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid57">
<ul class="list-bullet2">
<li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> We aim to
reduce disk space by having all applications make use
of a common dataset. We encourage applications to make
use of the example datasets already installed: </span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid58">
<ul>
<li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2 url"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project</a></span><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2 padtag
padtag_Example_Datasets url"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets">#Example_Datasets</a></span><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> If another dataset
would be more appropriate, please discuss here. Is it
appropriate, to remove existing demo datasets which
may already be included in the standard release. </span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid59"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid60"><span
class="author-g-8riyxoklomrf9u9y">pycsw exposes metadata,
and as such requires sample XML documents (Dublin Core and
ISO 19139:2007). </span><span
class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">Since the demo datasets
for pycsw are plain xml metadata files in sqlite database
files, we can include existing metadata xml files (perhaps
Geonetwork demo data?). The demo metadata we provide are
~20 xml files (CITE data from OGC and some xml files
created with gimed editor)</span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid61"><br>
Best regards,<br>
Angelos<br>
</div>
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