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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I hope no one CCed minds if we take
      this thread back to the live email list, so we can capture the
      technical discussion.<br>
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      On 24/10/2012 12:13 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote cite="mid:A771181521BC40858CC09F474ACF2A26@gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div> I have done the overview / fact sheet; waiting for a review
        on the live-demo email list. For my purposes (explaining what
        GIS is as part of an "OSGeo-Live" talk) having the fact sheet is
        enough. </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>However the JTS desktop tool would be an *amazing* addition
        to OSGeo-Live for use in an educational context, the ability to
        take a class enter in a couple geometries and have them try out
        the operations would be far better then explaining this in
        PostGIS and pgAdmin.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>install steps:</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>1)
Download <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/jts-topo-suite/files/jts/1.12/jts-1.12.zip/download">http://sourceforge.net/projects/jts-topo-suite/files/jts/1.12/jts-1.12.zip/download</a></div>
      <div>2) Unzip</div>
      <div>3) Copy in the following build.xml</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>
        <div><project name="JTS" basedir="." default="run"></div>
        <div> </div>
        <div>    <property name="lib"     value="lib"/></div>
        <div>    <property name="main-class"
           value="com.vividsolutions.jtstest.testbuilder.JTSTestBuilder"/></div>
        <div>    </div>
        <div>    <path id="classpath"></div>
        <div>        <fileset dir="${lib}" includes="**/*.jar"/></div>
        <div>    </path></div>
        <div>    </div>
        <div>    <target name="run"></div>
        <div>        <java fork="true" classname="${main-class}"></div>
        <div>            <classpath></div>
        <div>                <path refid="classpath"/></div>
        <div>                <path
          location="${jar.dir}/${ant.project.name}.jar"/></div>
        <div>            </classpath></div>
        <div>        </java></div>
        <div>    </target></div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div></project></div>
      </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>4) Type the following on the command line:</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>ant</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>
        <div>-- </div>
        <div>Jody Garnett<br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <p style="color: #A0A0A8;">On Wednesday, 24 October 2012 at 10:57
        AM, Stefan Steiniger wrote:</p>
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              <div>Ah ok, I had the same question as Landon w.r.t. an
                installer.</div>
              <div>So the question remaining is Landons other question:</div>
              <div>What is the schedule?</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>I could imagine to do the fact-sheet for JTS (though
                - its for JTS not </div>
              <div>the testbuilder - which I agree, is a nifty tool; at
                least for teaching) </div>
              <div>and maybe a short intro. But I think Landon did do
                the latter already?</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Installer... depends... maybe we can ask Ede from OJ
                for advise (but he </div>
              <div>also had a full plate ;)</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>cheers,</div>
              <div>stefan</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Am 23.10.12 17:16, schrieb Martin Davis:</div>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <div>
                  <div>Right now you have to use a BAT/SH file to run
                    them. I haven't done</div>
                  <div>the work to make them JAR-launchable.</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Landon Blake
                    <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:lblake@ksninc.com">lblake@ksninc.com</a>>
                    wrote:</div>
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <div>
                      <div>Roger. Are those typically executed by double
                        clicking on a JAR or by</div>
                      <div>using a BAT file?</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Landon Blake, P.L.S.</div>
                      <div>Project Surveyor</div>
                      <div>Kjeldsen, Sinnock & Neudeck, Inc.</div>
                      <div>711 N. Pershing Avenue, Stockton CA 95203</div>
                      <div>209 946-0268 | fax: 209 946-0296</div>
                      <div><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lblake@ksninc.com">lblake@ksninc.com</a> | <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://www.ksninc.com">http://www.ksninc.com</a></div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Warning:</div>
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                      <div>-----Original Message-----</div>
                      <div>From: Martin Davis [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:mtnclimb@gmail.com">mailto:mtnclimb@gmail.com</a>]</div>
                      <div>Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 12:58 PM</div>
                      <div>To: Landon Blake</div>
                      <div>Cc: Cameron Shorter; Jody; Stefan Steiniger</div>
                      <div>Subject: Re: [Live-demo] JTS on OSGeo-Live</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>JTS comes with a couple of user-level tools -
                        the TestBuilder and the</div>
                      <div>TestRunner. The TestRunner is a bit esoteric,
                        but the TestBuilder I</div>
                      <div>think would make a fine tool to be installed
                        on the Quickstart.</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>M</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Landon
                        Blake <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:lblake@ksninc.com">lblake@ksninc.com</a>></div>
                      <div>wrote:</div>
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <div>
                          <div>JTS is an important library, so I will
                            make time to assist.</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>I know a bit about the Quickstart. What
                            do you mean by "installer"?</div>
                          <div>JTS is really a library and not an
                            application, so I'm not sure what</div>
                          <div>we would need for an installer.</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Let me know more about that and I will
                            get started. What is our</div>
                          <div>timeline for this little project?</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Landon</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Landon Blake, P.L.S.</div>
                          <div>Project Surveyor</div>
                          <div>Kjeldsen, Sinnock & Neudeck, Inc.</div>
                          <div>711 N. Pershing Avenue, Stockton CA 95203</div>
                          <div>209 946-0268 | fax: 209 946-0296</div>
                          <div><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lblake@ksninc.com">lblake@ksninc.com</a> | <a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://www.ksninc.com">http://www.ksninc.com</a></div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Warning:</div>
                          <div>Information provided via electronic media
                            is not guaranteed against</div>
                        </div>
                      </blockquote>
                      <div>defects including translation and
                        transmission errors. If the reader is</div>
                      <div>not the intended recipient, you are hereby
                        notified that any</div>
                      <div>dissemination, distribution or copying of
                        this communication is strictly</div>
                      <div>prohibited. If you have received this
                        information in error, please</div>
                      <div>notify the sender immediately.</div>
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>-----Original Message-----</div>
                          <div>From: Cameron Shorter [<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>]</div>
                          <div>Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 12:24 PM</div>
                          <div>To: Martin Davis</div>
                          <div>Cc: Jody; Landon Blake; Stefan Steiniger</div>
                          <div>Subject: Re: [Live-demo] JTS on
                            OSGeo-Live</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Landon, Stefan,</div>
                          <div>I'm wondering if either (or both) of you
                            would be able to help get JTS</div>
                        </div>
                      </blockquote>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <div>
                          <div>onto OSGeo-Live.</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Jody has started, by writing a Project
                            Overview.</div>
                          <div>We still need an installer and
                            Quickstart.</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>On Monday, 22 October 2012 at 11:59,
                            Martin Davis wrote:</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Guys,</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>I'm happy to have JTS included on OSGeo
                            Live, but the sad fact is I</div>
                          <div>just don't have any time right now to
                            prepare the necessary artifacts</div>
                        </div>
                      </blockquote>
                      <div>myself.</div>
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <div>
                          <div>If someone else wants to take this on I'm
                            happy to advise, but</div>
                          <div>otherwise JTS will have to continue to
                            languish in obscurity...</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Martin</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>On 23/10/12 10:48, Martin Davis wrote:</div>
                          <blockquote type="cite">
                            <div>
                              <div>On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 4:30 PM,
                                Cameron Shorter</div>
                              <div><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
                                wrote:</div>
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                                <div>
                                  <div>Martin, if we find someone to
                                    write the docs and installer, are
                                    you</div>
                                  <div>prepared to review it?</div>
                                  <div>Can you suggest a likely
                                    candidate who might be willing to
                                    help out?</div>
                                </div>
                              </blockquote>
                              <div>Yes, certainly, happy to review it.</div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>Possibly Landon (Sunburned Surveyor)?
                                He has been interested in JTS</div>
                              <div>documentation in the past. Another
                                possibility is Stefan Steineger.</div>
                            </div>
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                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>--</div>
                          <div>Cameron Shorter</div>
                          <div>Geospatial Solutions Manager</div>
                          <div>Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050</div>
                          <div>Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Think Globally, Fix Locally</div>
                          <div>Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open
                            Standards and Open Source</div>
                          <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://www.lisasoft.com">http://www.lisasoft.com</a></div>
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Cameron Shorter
Geospatial Solutions Manager
Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254

Think Globally, Fix Locally
Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source
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