Thanks Alex,<div><br></div><div>This is good news. In 9h we will meet to declare final, so this makes things easier.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Angelos<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Alex Mandel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tech_dev@wildintellect.com" target="_blank">tech_dev@wildintellect.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">FYI, I just completed a test run of the full iso build based on r10k.<br>
It's a little large at ~5 GB. I'll look over the installer selection<br>
tomorrow and adjust. Script appears to be working fine and all download<br>
links succeeded.<br>
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I also added a note on how to do the process<br>
<a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Build#Build_Full_ISO_from_Mini_ISO" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Build#Build_Full_ISO_from_Mini_ISO</a><br>
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Thanks,<br>
Alex<br>
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On 02/16/2013 12:05 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:<br>
> Unless someone finds a show-stopper issue, I'm anticipating we will be<br>
> releasing osgeo-live 6.5rc2 as final in 24 or 48 hours.<br>
> I'd like to talk over final release details with the rest of our osgeo<br>
> live community at our usual meeting slot in 24 hours (or 48 hours if key<br>
> players are actually dipping into their non-virtual lives over the<br>
> weekend).<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2013&month=2&day=17&hour=19&min=30&sec=0&p1=179&p2=224&p3=22&p4=240&p5=215" target="_blank">http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2013&month=2&day=17&hour=19&min=30&sec=0&p1=179&p2=224&p3=22&p4=240&p5=215</a><br>
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> On 17/02/13 06:44, Cameron Shorter wrote:<br>
>> I agree with Angelos,<br>
>><br>
>> Sounds like the ubuntu point release is unlikely to impact our<br>
>> applications, and has some improvements we would benefit from.<br>
>> Ie: Bugs fixed is expected to be greater than bugs introduced.<br>
>><br>
>> On 17/02/13 03:51, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:<br>
>>> Hi Brian,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Some answers inline:<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 02/16/2013 06:14 PM, <a href="mailto:maplabs@light42.com">maplabs@light42.com</a> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:53:16 +0200, Angelos Tzotsos<br>
>>>> <<a href="mailto:gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com">gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> Hi all,<br>
>>>>> I have completed a new build based on 12.04.2 and it looks good so<br>
>>>>> far.<br>
>>>>> <a href="http://aiolos.survey.ntua.gr/gisvm/dev/osgeo-live-debug-build10000.iso" target="_blank">http://aiolos.survey.ntua.gr/gisvm/dev/osgeo-live-debug-build10000.iso</a><br>
>>>>> This could be RC2 if we decide to make this extra step towards<br>
>>>>> Secure Boot.<br>
>>>>> I would like to hear more opinions about our options here. Hamish<br>
>>>>> proposed another option on IRC yesterday:<br>
>>>>> 4. Release RC1 as Final and do a 6.5.1 with the 12.04.2 Xubuntu<br>
>>>>> base after a month or so, when more feedback will be available.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> from a testing point of view, you have to say, where are the risks?<br>
>>>> e.g. What set of users and hardware are affected by the changes in<br>
>>>> 12.04.2 ?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Until RC1 we used Xubuntu 12.04.1 base iso and during *all* our<br>
>>> builds we used "apt-get upgrade".<br>
>>> This means all updates until the day we built RC1 are included<br>
>>> (except kernel updates that were kept back to protect chroot<br>
>>> environment)<br>
>>> The new 12.04.2 base iso brings in updates that were released the<br>
>>> last couple of days (Qt4, openJDK updates and a new kernel)<br>
>>> The new kernel (3.2.0-37) brings support for Secure Boot and I<br>
>>> seriously doubt that it would affect any software of our stack.<br>
>>> OpenJDK update brings in the last *very critical* java patches that<br>
>>> so much noise was made around the internet the last weeks. My opinion<br>
>>> is that this is a serious security update and we should ship with it.<br>
>>> Regarding Qt4 updates, small part of our stack is built on Qt and we<br>
>>> can test those applications to check that they are not affected.<br>
>>><br>
>>>> How could those be at risk given this change?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Regarding hardware, I am not sure we ever tested on specific<br>
>>> hardware. I feel that we always trust Ubuntu on this area. Why should<br>
>>> this change now?<br>
>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> internally, it is unlikely that application layer software is<br>
>>>> affected much by<br>
>>>> a tiny point change like that, but what might the interactions be?<br>
>>>> Are there changes that effect any of the software stacks?<br>
>>><br>
>>> I think this is covered above.<br>
>>><br>
>>>> The rote way to test is to mechanically re-examine all bugs, and<br>
>>>> re-examine all features, and re-examine all quickstarts, when there<br>
>>>> is a platform change.. This is labor intensive and as noted, we dont<br>
>>>> have the labor available to do that..<br>
>>><br>
>>> I understand that we lack on the testing side, and yes we need more<br>
>>> testers to make all the quality checks needed.<br>
>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> It is always smart to characterize the nature of the delta, and use<br>
>>>> insight to try to find where bugs and problems are likely to be...<br>
>>>> Since Ubuntu Linux and the software on the Live is very complex,<br>
>>>> I welcome the ideas of others to make good decisions about testing<br>
>>>> to acheive quality, and decisions about change to lessen risk to<br>
>>>> quality.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I feel that since testing was only done so far by a small number of<br>
>>> users, it would not be hard to run one more round of testing before<br>
>>> release, but I really want to hear everybody's opinion on this.<br>
>>><br>
>>>> best regards<br>
>>>> -Brian<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> --<br>
>>>> Brian M Hamlin<br>
>>>> OSGeo California Chapter<br>
>>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Best,<br>
>>> Angelos<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> --<br>
>>> Angelos Tzotsos<br>
>>> Remote Sensing Laboratory<br>
>>> National Technical University of Athens<br>
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