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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Ian,<br>
Thanks for your application for IRIS. The project does seem to
have much going for it.<br>
The question I'm still unclear on is whether the project is too
specialised for the vast majority of people who pick up
OSGeo-Live, and is it seriously used outside of UK Met Office.<br>
<br>
A primary focus on OSGeo-Live is to help new users looking for
established OSGeo projects. (A side benefit of helping new users
is that we provide a marketing pipeline for the established
projects).<br>
We need to be careful that we don't include every project looking
for a community, as it confuses users, which in turn reduces the
value of OSGeo-Live for all.<br>
<br>
Based upon your explanation below, it seems that IRIS still would
need to attract users from outside the UK Met Office before it
could be considered to have an established community?<br>
Is this something you can talk to? Maybe IRIS would be a better
candidate to join OSGeo-Live in a future release?<br>
<br>
On 12/06/2013 6:54 AM, Ian Edwards wrote:<br>
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<li>Please describe your application.
<br>
<br>
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<div class="im">
<li>What is its name? <b>Iris</b> </li>
<li>What is the home page URL? <b><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://scitools.org.uk/"
target="_blank">http://scitools.org.uk/</a></b><br>
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<li>Which OSI approved Open Source Licence is
used? <b>LGPL</b><span><font face="Arial"
color="#0000ff"> <b><font face="Times New
Roman" size="3" color="#000000">v3</font></b></font></span>
</li>
<li>
<div class="im">What does the application do and
how does it add value to the GeoSpatial stack
of software?<br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr"><strong>The Iris python package
allows</strong><span><font face="Arial"
color="#0000ff"> </font></span><strong>users
to work with large multi-dimensional
datasets such as those found in the fields
of weather and climate science. Iris builds
on the semantics and data model from the
Climate and Forecasting conventions for
NetCDF (CF-NetCDF) which exist to define the
metadata within NetCDF files in order to
provide a definitive description of each of
the data variables including their spatial
and temporal properties. CF-NetCDF is being
adopted by the OGC as a WCS payload format.
<br>
<br>
Iris enables users of data from different
sources to build applications with powerful
extraction, regridding, and display
capabilities and export their data to CF
compliant NetCDF. The ability to provide
data sets of three, four, and
higher-dimensions represents a significant
expansion of the capabilities of web
coverage services</strong><span><font
face="Arial" color="#0000ff">
<font face="Times New Roman" size="3"
color="#000000"><strong>which require
tooling to generate the data sets.<font
size="3"> </font>
<font size="3">NetCDF and t</font></strong></font></font></span><strong>he
CF conventions provide extensive
capabilities for multidimensional data</strong><span><font
face="Arial" color="#0000ff"> <strong><font
face="Times New Roman" size="3"
color="#000000">,</font></strong> </font></span><strong>Iris
can provide an interface to NetCDF data
sets. </strong></div>
<br>
</li>
<li>
<div class="im">Does the application make use of
OGC standards? Which versions of the
standards? Client or server? You may wish to
add comments about how standards are used. <br>
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<span><font face="Arial"><b>This Iris data
model follows the CF-NetCDF 1.6
conventions
</b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/netcdf"
target="_blank"><b>http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/netcdf</b></a><b><br>
</b><b>Current use cases include using Iris
to convert data into a format suitable for
use with GeoServer to serve slices of
multi-dimensional datasets via WMS 1.1.1
and 1.3.0<br>
Developers are currently looking at
integrating Iris with Zoo-project to allow
users to interact with the library via WPS
calls.</b></font></span><span><font
face="Arial"><b><br>
</b></font></span><br>
</li>
</ul>
<div class="im">
<ul>
<li>What language is it written in? <b>Python</b>
</li>
<li>Which version of the application should be
included in the next OSGeo-Live release?<br>
<b>- Iris 1.4.0 (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/SciTools/iris/tags"
target="_blank">https://github.com/SciTools/iris/tags</a>)</b><br>
<br>
</li>
</ul>
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</ul>
</li>
<li>
<div class="im">Stability is very important to us on
OSGeo-Live. If a new user finds a bug in one
application, it will tarnish the reputation of all
other OSGeo-Live applications as well. (We pay most
attention to the following answers):<br>
<br>
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<ul>
<li>
<div class="im">If risk adverse organisations have
deployed your application into production, it
would imply that these organisations have
verified the stability of your software. Has the
application been rolled out to production into
risk (ideally risk adverse) organisations?
Please mention some of these organisations? <br>
</div>
<span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff"><font
face="Times New Roman" size="3"
color="#000000"><b>Iris was developed by the
UK Met Office (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://metoffice.gov.uk"
target="_blank">metoffice.gov.uk</a>) to
provide a more robust, intuitive and
standards complaint environment for use
across the organisation's research and
production systems. The software was
released as open source to ensure easy
collaboration with partners and external
developers are now also contributing to
code base.</b></font></font></span><br>
</li>
<div class="im">
<li><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.ohloh.net/" rel="nofollow"
target="_blank">Ohloh</a> provides metrics to
help assess the health of a project. Eg:
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/docs/en/metrics.html"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">
http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/docs/en/metrics.html</a> Could you
please ensure that your project is registered
with Ohloh, and Ohloh has been updated to
reference the correct code repository(s) for
your project. What is the Ohloh URL for your
project?
<br>
<b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ohloh.net/p/scitools-iris"
target="_blank">http://www.ohloh.net/p/scitools-iris</a></b><br>
</li>
</div>
<li>
<div class="im">What is the size of the user
community? You can often answer this by
mentioning downloads, or describing a healthy,
busy email list?<br>
</div>
<b> </b><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff"> <font
face="Times New Roman" size="3"
color="#000000"><b>Within the Met Office we
have over 250 unique users. Externally we
are in contact with collaborators who
also use the software, we would like to
use OSGeo Live to increase the user base</b></font></font></span><span><font
face="Arial" color="#0000ff"> </font></span></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</div>
<ul>
<ul>
<div class="im">
<li><span> </span>What is the size of your developer
community?<br>
<b> The project currently has 5 full time core
developers and an additional 3-6 developers.</b><br>
<br>
</li>
</div>
<li>
<div class="im">Do you have a bug free, stable
release?<br>
</div>
<span><font face="Arial"><b> Yes, The Met Office has
currently deployed the stable 1.4.0 release.</b></font></span><br>
<br>
</li>
<li>
<div class="im">Please discuss the level of testing
that your project has gone through.<br>
</div>
<span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff"><b> <font
color="#000000"> The 1.4.0 release has over
1,200 unit tests. Each pull request must pass
peer-review and Travis CI testing before being
merged into the project<br>
e.g. </font></b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://travis-ci.org/SciTools/iris/builds/7844677"
target="_blank"><b>https://travis-ci.org/SciTools/iris/builds/7844677</b></a></font></span><br>
</li>
<div class="im">
<li>How long has the project has had mature code.<br>
<b> Iris has been considered mature since the 1.0
release in October 2012.</b><br>
</li>
</div>
</ul>
<li>
<div class="im">OSGeo-Live is targeted at applications
that people can use rather than libraries. Does the
application have a user interface (possibly a command
line interface) that a user can interact with? (We do
make an exception for Incubated OSGeo Libraries, and
will include Project Overviews for these libraries,
even if they don't have a user interface.)<br>
</div>
<div class="im"><b> </b><b><b> </b></b><b><b><b>No,
this is a software library<br>
</b></b>For examples, see: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://scitools.org.uk/iris/docs/latest/gallery.html"
target="_blank">
http://scitools.org.uk/iris/docs/latest/gallery.html</a></b><br>
</div>
</li>
<div class="im">
<li>We give preference to OSGeo Incubated Projects, or
Projects which are presented at
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://foss4g.org"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">FOSS4G</a>
conferences. If your project is involved in OSGeo
Incubation, or has been selected to be presented at
FOSS4G, then please mention it.<br>
<b> FOSS4G 2013 Workshop: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://2013.foss4g.org/provisional/workshops#W15" target="_blank">
http://2013.foss4g.org/provisional/workshops#W15</a></b><br>
<b> FOSS4G 2013 Presentation: Cartopy and Iris: Open
Source Python Tools for Analysis and Visualisation</b>
<br>
</li>
<li>With around 50 applications installed on OSGeo-Live,
us core packagers do not have the time to liaise with
every single project email list for each OSGeo-Live
release. So we require a volunteer (or two) to take
responsibility for liaising between OSGeo-Live and the
project's communities. This volunteer will be
responsible for ensuring the install scripts and
English documentation are updated by someone for each
OSGeo-Live release. Also test that the installed
application and Quickstart documentation works as
expected on release candidate releases of OSGeo-Live.
Who will act as the project's liaison person.
<br>
<b> Ian Edwards - ian.edwards [ a t ] <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://metoffice.gov.uk" target="_blank">
metoffice.gov.uk</a></b><br>
</li>
<li>OSGeo-Live is Ubuntu Linux based. Our installation
preference is:
<ol>
<li>Install from UbuntuGIS or DebianGIS </li>
<li>Install .deb files from a PPA </li>
<li>Write a custom install script </li>
</ol>
</li>
</div>
</ul>
<div class="im">
<dl>
<dd>Can you please discuss how your application will be
installed.<br>
</dd>
<dd><b> We intend to provide a PPA within the
timeframe of OSGeo Live 7 development<br>
</b></dd>
<dd><b> Currently users install from recipes: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/SciTools/installation-recipes"
target="_blank">
https://github.com/SciTools/installation-recipes</a><br>
</b></dd>
<dd><b> </b><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff"> </font></span><b>Automated
Ubuntu install:
</b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/SciTools/iris/blob/master/.travis.yml"
target="_blank"><b>https://github.com/SciTools/iris/blob/master/.travis.yml</b></a><br>
</dd>
</dl>
<ul>
<li>OSGeo-Live is memory and disk constrained. Can the
application run in 512 Meg of RAM?<br>
<b> Yes</b><br>
</li>
</ul>
</div>
<ul>
<li>
<div class="im">How much disk space will be required to
install the application and a suitable example
application?<br>
</div>
<b> </b><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff"> <b><font
face="Times New Roman" size="3" color="#000000">The
Iris python code is only 3.3 Mb. The size of
the install will depend on which of the
dependencies are already available on OSGeo
Live, but the final install will still be small,
see:
</font></b></font><font face="Arial"><font><font
color="#0000ff"><b><font face="Times New Roman"
size="3" color="#000000"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://scitools.org.uk/iris/docs/latest/installing.html#build-requirements"
target="_blank">http://scitools.org.uk/iris/docs/latest/installing.html#build-requirements</a></font></b></font></font></font></span></li>
</ul>
<div><span></span><span></span> </div>
<ul>
<li>
<div class="im"><span> </span>We aim to reduce disk
space by having all applications make use of a common
dataset. We encourage applications to make use of the
example datasets already installed:<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets</a>
If another dataset would be more appropriate, please
discuss here. Is it appropriate, to remove existing
demo datasets which may already be included in the
standard release.<br>
</div>
<b> </b><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff"> <b><font
face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"
color="#000000">Additional sample</font></font></b> <b><font
face="Times New Roman" size="3" color="#000000">data,
if required, can be downloaded by the user from
the web <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/SciTools/iris-sample-data"
target="_blank">https://github.com/SciTools/iris-sample-data</a></font></b></font></span><br>
</li>
</ul>
<div class="im">
<ul>
<li>Each OSGeo-Live application requires a Project
Overview available under a <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">
CC By</a> and a Quickstart available under a <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">
CC By-SA</a> license. (You may release under a
second license as well). Will you produce this?
<br>
<b> Yes</b><br>
</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>In past releases, we have included Windows and Mac
installers for some applications. It is likely we
won't have space for these in future releases.
However, if there is room, would you be wishing to
include Windows and/or Mac installers?
<br>
<b> Windows support is still in development we
currently have a small Mac user group - we certainly
would like to be able to provide both in the future,
but probably not on this release.</b><br>
</li>
</ul>
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