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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks to all those who made this
      meeting. I'm ashamed to admit that I slept in and missed the
      meeting (I'm still on holidays). I can see from the logs that it
      was very productive, and a clear direction re packaging is
      emerging. <br>
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      <br>
      On 02/01/14 22:26, Cameron Shorter wrote:<br>
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      Hi,<br>
      At this week's OSGeo-Live IRC meeting I suggest we focus on
      deciding what we will recommend for UbuntuGIS and OSGeo-Live
      packaging.<br>
      <br>
      This is an important decision, and would welcome input from people
      who have been involved in UbuntuGIS and/or DebianGIS projects.
      Please join us if you can.<br>
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              font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight:
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              text-align: left;">Time zone</th>
            <th class="sep" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px;
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              font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight:
              inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: top;
              text-align: left;">UTC offset</th>
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            font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align:
            baseline; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);
            background-position: initial initial; background-repeat:
            initial initial;">
            <td style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding:
              0.4em; border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size:
              inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit;
              font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
              vertical-align: top; text-align: left;"><a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=179"
                title="Current local time in New York"
                style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding:
                0px; border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size:
                inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit;
                font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
                vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(23, 109, 179);
                text-decoration: none;">New York</a><span
                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span
                class="small" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin:
                0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-family: inherit;
                font-size: 12px; font-style: inherit; font-variant:
                inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
                vertical-align: baseline;">(U.S.A. - New York)</span></td>
            <td style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding:
              0.4em; border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size:
              inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit;
              font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
              vertical-align: top; text-align: left;">Thursday, 2
              January 2014 at 2:30:00 PM</td>
            <td style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding:
              0.4em; border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size:
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              font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
              vertical-align: top; text-align: left;"><a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/na/est.html"
                title="Eastern Standard Time" style="box-sizing:
                border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px;
                font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style:
                inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit;
                line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color:
                rgb(23, 109, 179); text-decoration: none;">EST</a></td>
            <td style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding:
              0.4em; border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size:
              inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit;
              font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
              vertical-align: top; text-align: left;">UTC-5 hours</td>
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            rgb(221, 221, 221); border-bottom-color: rgb(221, 221, 221);
            font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style:
            inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit;
            line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline;
            background-color: rgb(247, 247, 247); background-position:
            initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">
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              font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
              vertical-align: top; text-align: left;"><a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=224"
                title="Current local time in San Francisco"
                style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding:
                0px; border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size:
                inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit;
                font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
                vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(23, 109, 179);
                text-decoration: none;">San Francisco</a><span
                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span
                class="small" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin:
                0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-family: inherit;
                font-size: 12px; font-style: inherit; font-variant:
                inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
                vertical-align: baseline;">(U.S.A. - California)</span></td>
            <td style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding:
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              inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit;
              font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
              vertical-align: top; text-align: left;">Thursday, 2
              January 2014 at 11:30:00 AM</td>
            <td style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding:
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              font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
              vertical-align: top; text-align: left;"><a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/na/pst.html"
                title="Pacific Standard Time" style="box-sizing:
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                font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style:
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                rgb(23, 109, 179); text-decoration: none;">PST</a></td>
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              font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
              vertical-align: top; text-align: left;">UTC-8 hours</td>
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            font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align:
            baseline; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);
            background-position: initial initial; background-repeat:
            initial initial;">
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              0.4em; border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size:
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              font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
              vertical-align: top; text-align: left;"><a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=22"
                title="Current local time in Auckland"
                style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding:
                0px; border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size:
                inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit;
                font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
                vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(23, 109, 179);
                text-decoration: none;">Auckland</a><span
                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span
                class="small" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin:
                0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-family: inherit;
                font-size: 12px; font-style: inherit; font-variant:
                inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
                vertical-align: baseline;">(New Zealand)</span></td>
            <td style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding:
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              inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit;
              font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
              vertical-align: top; text-align: left;">Friday, 3 January
              2014 at 8:30:00 AM</td>
            <td style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding:
              0.4em; border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size:
              inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit;
              font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
              vertical-align: top; text-align: left;"><a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/pacific/nzdt.html"
                title="New Zealand Daylight Time" style="box-sizing:
                border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px;
                font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style:
                inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit;
                line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color:
                rgb(23, 109, 179); text-decoration: none;">NZDT</a></td>
            <td style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding:
              0.4em; border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size:
              inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit;
              font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
              vertical-align: top; text-align: left;">UTC+13 hours</td>
          </tr>
          <tr class="c1" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px;
            padding: 0px; border-width: 1px 0px; border-top-style:
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            rgb(221, 221, 221); border-bottom-color: rgb(221, 221, 221);
            font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style:
            inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit;
            line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline;
            background-color: rgb(247, 247, 247); background-position:
            initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">
            <td style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding:
              0.4em; border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size:
              inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit;
              font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
              vertical-align: top; text-align: left;"><a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=240"
                title="Current local time in Sydney" style="box-sizing:
                border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px;
                font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style:
                inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit;
                line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color:
                rgb(23, 109, 179); text-decoration: none;">Sydney</a><span
                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span
                class="small" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin:
                0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-family: inherit;
                font-size: 12px; font-style: inherit; font-variant:
                inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
                vertical-align: baseline;">(Australia - New South Wales)</span></td>
            <td style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding:
              0.4em; border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size:
              inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit;
              font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
              vertical-align: top; text-align: left;">Friday, 3 January
              2014 at 6:30:00 AM</td>
            <td style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding:
              0.4em; border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size:
              inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit;
              font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
              vertical-align: top; text-align: left;"><a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/au/edt.html"
                title="Australian Eastern Daylight Time"
                style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding:
                0px; border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size:
                inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit;
                font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
                vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(23, 109, 179);
                text-decoration: none;">AEDT</a></td>
            <td style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding:
              0.4em; border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size:
              inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit;
              font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
              vertical-align: top; text-align: left;">UTC+11 hours</td>
          </tr>
          <tr class="c0" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px;
            padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size:
            inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit;
            font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align:
            baseline; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);
            background-position: initial initial; background-repeat:
            initial initial;">
            <td style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding:
              0.4em; border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size:
              inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit;
              font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
              vertical-align: top; text-align: left;"><a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=215"
                title="Current local time in Rome" style="box-sizing:
                border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px;
                font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style:
                inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit;
                line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color:
                rgb(23, 109, 179); text-decoration: none;">Rome</a><span
                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span
                class="small" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin:
                0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-family: inherit;
                font-size: 12px; font-style: inherit; font-variant:
                inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
                vertical-align: baseline;">(Italy)</span></td>
            <td style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding:
              0.4em; border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size:
              inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit;
              font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
              vertical-align: top; text-align: left;">Thursday, 2
              January 2014 at 8:30:00 PM</td>
            <td style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding:
              0.4em; border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size:
              inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit;
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href="http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/eu/cet.html"
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              vertical-align: top; text-align: left;">UTC+1 hour</td>
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            rgb(221, 221, 221); border-bottom-color: rgb(221, 221, 221);
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              inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit;
              font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
              vertical-align: top; text-align: left;">Corresponding UTC
              (GMT)</td>
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href="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140102T1930"
                style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding:
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                font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;
                vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(23, 109, 179);
                text-decoration: none;">Thursday, 2 January 2014 at
                19:30:00</a></td>
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P +61 2 9009 5000,  W <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.lisasoft.com">www.lisasoft.com</a>,  F +61 2 9009 5099</pre>
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P +61 2 9009 5000,  W <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.lisasoft.com">www.lisasoft.com</a>,  F +61 2 9009 5099</pre>
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