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Hi Luis,<br>
Yes, I think that this OGC E-Leaning material would be an excellent
candidate for including in OSGeo-Live documentation, once the
documentation is suitably mature, and any packaging tweaks are
addressed.<br>
<br>
I'm CCing the OSGeo-Live email list to see if there are others
within the OSGeo-Live community with suggestions.<br>
<br>
Luis,<br>
Do you have a timeframe in mind for a "version 1" of this training
material? Where version 1 would have sufficient content and quality
to be considered production worthy and something that we would
consider worthy of including in OSGeo-Live. Version 1 might not
include all standards, but would probably include quality
descriptions of the most used standards.<br>
<br>
Cheers, Cameron<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30/06/2015 4:44 am, Luis Bermudez
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<div>I appreciate very much your great feedback. I have created 4
issues [1] in GitHub with your 4 concerns. We will be
commenting on those as we make progress.</div>
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<div>Question: Can you use the materials with the current
structure for OSGeo-Live?</div>
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href="https://github.com/opengeospatial/e-learning/issues">https://github.com/opengeospatial/e-learning/issues</a></div>
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<div>Best Regards.</div>
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Bermudez, Ph.D.<br>
Executive Director Compliance and E-Learning<br>
Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC)<br>
Skype: bermudez_luis<br>
Twitter: @berdez<br>
Tel: +1 301 760 7323<br>
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<div>On Jun 28, 2015, at 9:09 AM, Cameron Shorter <<a
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi Luis,<br>
You have some good material in place, and a good document
structure.<br>
I haven't had time to do much more than a quick skim, but
have picked up on a couple of things.<br>
(Hopefully you were looking for feedback?)<br>
<br>
I'm looking at the WMS Introduction page:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://54.68.173.163/el/wms/text/basic-main.html">http://54.68.173.163/el/wms/text/basic-main.html</a><br>
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The page is missing a date stamp. It would be useful for a
reader to know if this page is still current? Possibly add
a "Last Updated" tag or similar.<br>
<br>
Nice idea to have a History section.<br>
This would probably be best structured as a table with:<br>
<br>
<version number> <Release date> <Summary of
what changed since last release><br>
<br>
Somewhere, probably in a separate document, there should
be a detailed description listing everything which has
changed since the last release.<br>
This will help implementers answer:<br>
* If I upgrade a legacy system to a more recent OGC
standard, what extra functionality will I gain? What
incompatibility issues might be encountered, if any?<br>
<br>
<br>
I like the "Relation to other Standards" section.<br>
It is good to explain why WFS would be used instead of
WMS. I suggest it would be valuable to explain the
opposite as well. Why would you use WMS instead of WFS (or
instead of WMTS)? <br>
<br>
Example:<br>
I notice the example references an external URL ( <a
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href="http://metaspatial.net/">http://metaspatial.net/</a>
). For OGC branded material, I'd suggest that all examples
or references maintained on OGC infrastructure, and not
rely on a third party which may have different terms of
service.<br>
In particular, I'd suggest that all training material
should make use of relative URLs for web services from
training material. Ie, instead of referencing <a
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href="http://www.opengeospatial.org/">http://www.opengeospatial.org/</a><services>/wms.cgi<br>
reference ../../<services>/wms/cgi<br>
That way, the training material, along with all the
examples can be copied into a virtual machine or similar
and used in a classroom, or ...<br>
(We follow this convention with the OSGeo-Live project).<br>
<br>
Warm regards,<br>
Cameron<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 27/06/2015 5:55 am, Luis
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<div>We have made some progress developing OGC online
training material.</div>
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<div>I have updated the wiki to reflect the latest. Here
we have the logical groupings we are thinking about in
order to make the standards easier to digest and
explain, and maybe in the future to provide
professionals OGC certification. </div>
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<div>The source [1] should be easily reusable. We have
design it in a way that the documentation can be
easily incorporated in other places (e.g. OCG Live).</div>
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<div>For example </div>
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<div>- introduction to OGC can be found here in the
intro-ogc.rst file [2]</div>
<div>- introduction to WMS 1.3 [3]</div>
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<div>We also have demo server with the content created
so far:</div>
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<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div>Help, feedback and comments are appreciated.</div>
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<div>[1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/opengeospatial/e-learning/tree/master/source">https://github.com/opengeospatial/e-learning/tree/master/source</a></div>
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href="https://github.com/opengeospatial/e-learning/tree/master/source/ogc/text">https://github.com/opengeospatial/e-learning/tree/master/source/ogc/text</a></div>
<div>[3] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/opengeospatial/e-learning/blob/master/source/wms/text/basic-main.rst">https://github.com/opengeospatial/e-learning/blob/master/source/wms/text/basic-main.rst</a></div>
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<div>Enjoy!</div>
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after-white-space;">Luis Bermudez, Ph.D.<br>
Executive Director Compliance and E-Learning<br>
Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC)<br>
Skype: bermudez_luis<br>
Twitter: @berdez<br>
Tel: +1 301 760 7323<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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