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Bringing a few different email threads back to one, and answering
Suchith's "next steps" question:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/10/2015 12:43 am, Suchith Anand
wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Cameron - from your experiences with OSGeo live community, what do you think is the best way now forward ? Can you please summarise all discussions so far and reply to the public lists.Thanks.
Suchith</pre>
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If we are to be successful at setting up an OSGeo-Live sustainable
cloud service, I suggest we consider:<br>
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1. Would a cloud service be used? By who?<br>
I'd suggest that people who want a cloud service speak up, say how
you would use an OSGeo-Live cloud service. We are looking here to
determine if there is a sustaining community who will step up to
keep the project maintained with each OSGeo-Live release. <br>
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2. What are the steps technically required to set up the cloud
service? Hopefully someone will step up to do the research on what
is required, and will set up a Proof-of-Concept.<br>
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3. What will hosting a cloud service cost? Would it be a
pay-as-you-use model? Would we be asking the OSGeo Foundation to
sponsor? Would we be asking workshop providers to pay for the
service?<br>
I suspect that we could ask the OSGeo Foundation for base funding to
prove a Proof of Concept (by paying for a cloud service for 1 year
or so), but ask workshop providers and other users to pay for the
service in moving forward.<br>
This is something that can be decided once costs are understood.<br>
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4. But the bottom line is that the best chance of success will occur
if someone stands up and champions its development. Do we have
someone interested to do the hard work of making it happen? (Speak
up if interested). It certainly would be a valuable contribution to
the OSGeo community.<br>
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Warm regards, Cameron<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14/10/2015 7:59 pm, Peter Baumann
wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap=""><span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span> 1.Do you think it is important to have a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM
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<pre wrap="">not necessarily a cloud, as the whole OSGeo Live is not prepared.
But definitely hosting it on a VM (for easy cloning + move) is an asset - any
demo just needs to show a URL then.
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span> 2.What are the steps that we need to take to make this possible
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<pre wrap="">find a caretaker with a machine.
Jacobs University can do that, for example, in tight collaboration with Angelos
on technical level.
-Peter
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 15/10/2015 2:53 am, Giuseppe
Amatulli wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi, <br>
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under the <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.spatial-ecology.net/" target="_blank">http://www.spatial-ecology.net/</a>
initiative we use the the OSGeo-Llive for courses and
intensive training in Geo Computation. <br>
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In this line we have been used also Amazon Web Service to
teach remote connection and scripting routines in the cloud.
For this I was customize a Ubuntu Instance very similar to
the OSGeo-Llive. <br>
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Nonetheless, would be grate to have the OSGeo-Llive directly
hosted in AWS to allow teach but also to provide to the course
participants something that they can use after the course. <br>
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The <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://aws.amazon.com/education/awseducate/">AWS Educate</a>
provide grants for education so maybe an official cooperation
OSGeo&AWS can be a solution to host for free a OSGeo-Llive
Instance
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<div>Best Regards<br>
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<div>Giuseppe</div>
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<pre wrap="">On 10/13/2015 05:57 PM, Suchith Anand wrote:
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<pre wrap=""><span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>Hi all,
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>Myself, Maria and Peter are now at ESA event and had a chance to catch up on ideas for future to expand education globally.
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>I also remembered that few months back, we had an initial discussion on the importance of having a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM to help running workshops at conferences, training events etc. Venka made this idea in one of the Geo4All AB discussions on workshops at FOSS4G Bonn that i copy below
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>"Instead of buying 80-100 computers, it could be a worth considering to pay for a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM. Maybe one of our sponsoring companies could be approached to deploy such OSGeo Software as a Service solution.Such service could be made available to any event/institution wishing to run their own workshops anywhere place on earth with a good internet connection and thin client. For subsequent events or users could be charged to cover cost of cloud hosting and paying for some developers to maintain the system.If the experiment is successful, we can think of replicating it in our globally through our local chapters."
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>Me, Maria and Peter in our discussions today, thought it is good time to start doing something about this and have this for scaling up our education and training needs globally. So it will be good to get ideas from key people, so i request you all to give your thoughts/ideas.
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>1.Do you think it is important to have a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM.
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>2.What are the steps that we need to take to make this possible
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>Looking forward to your inputs.
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>Suchith
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