<div dir="ltr">Thank you Gabriele for the detailed responses.<div><br></div><div>I also strongly support the inclusion of Nasa World Wind in OSGeoLive.</div><div><br></div><div>Regarding the size of the installation, I would like to try a basic installation first (without documentation to save some space) so we can find out how much World Wind will compress in the iso. The next step would be to try to use the data already present in the disk. Then we will be able to make a decision regarding the amount of sample data that will be needed.</div><div><br></div><div>Regarding Java vs Web version, personally I would like to see both included. </div><div>Having a tagged release is a good sign of stability, so I would prefer to have a tagged version included. This would also help potential packaging efforts.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Angelos</div><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Cameron Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Thanks Gabriele,<br>
Based on your responses, it seems that Go World Wind is a mature,
established open source GIS product, which is in line with the
principles of OSGeo Live.<br>
<br>
On the downsite, it appears to be a large product, which may be a
challenge to fit on OSGeo-Live. I'd be interested to hear thoughts
from Angelos and others in that regard.<br>
<br>
The documentation does appear to be comprehensive and I feel
shouldn't be included with the OSGeo-Live release (it can be
referenced). Instead just provide standard OSGeo-Live Project
Overview and Quickstart.<br>
<br>
Also, I request you make use of existing OSGeo-Live sample data
rather that adding a new dataset. This reduces disk space and helps
with comparisons and integration between applications.<br>
<br>
--<br>
<br>
I'm undecided on whether World Wind Web is ready. I'd be hoping to
see a specific stable version nominated for inclusion. <br>
It also seems to have a relatively new development history, so might
not have reached a stable release yet?<br>
<br>
Would it make to bundle GeoWorldWind and WorldWindWeb together? Or
are they two stand alone applications?<br>
<br>
Warm regards, Cameron<div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
<div>On 6/01/2016 10:23 pm, Gabriele
Prestifilippo wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi, I’m answering the questions referring
to both versions. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">If you consider including Java and Web
version, I will provide two different installation scripts. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(37,37,37);background:white">I
confirm that my contributions to OSGeo-Live will be
compatible with the OSGeo-Live license guidelines at the
time of contribution</span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US">-What is its name?<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Nasa World Wind,
composed of Go World Wind and Web World Wind</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US">- What is the home page URL?</span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://goworldwind.org/" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">http://goworldwind.org/</span></a><span lang="EN-US"> and </span><a href="http://webworldwind.org/" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">http://webworldwind.org/</span></a>
<span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US">-Which </span></span><a href="http://opensource.org/licenses" target="_blank"><span><span style="text-decoration:none" lang="EN-US">OSI approved
Open Source Licence</span></span></a><span><span lang="EN-US"> is used?<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">NASA OPEN SOURCE
AGREEMENT VERSION 1.3
(<a href="https://opensource.org/licenses/NASA-1.3" target="_blank">https://opensource.org/licenses/NASA-1.3</a>)<br>
<br>
<span><u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US">-What does the application do and how does it
add value to the GeoSpatial stack of software?<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">World Wind provides a
rich set of features for displaying and interacting with
geographic data and representing a wide range of geometric
objects using a 3d virtual globe</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US">-Does the application make use of OGC
standards? Which versions of the standards? Client or
server? You may wish to add comments about how standards
are used.<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Yes, it uses on the
client WMS, WFS and as GIS formats: Shapefile, KML, VPF,
GML, GeoJSON, GeoRSS, GPX, NMEA and many others to draw
services on the globe<br>
<br>
<span><u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US">-What language is it written in?<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The Java version
(goworldwind) is written mostly in java and C++, while Web
version is in Javascript</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US">-Which version of the application should be
included in the next OSGeo-Live release?</span></span><span lang="EN-US"><br>
World Wind Java SDK 2.0.0 and regarding the web version,
it’s updated frequently, so the latest one available during
the disk build</span> process<span lang="EN-US">.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US">- If risk adverse organisations have deployed
your application into production, it would imply that
these organisations have verified the stability of your
software. Has the application been rolled out to
production into risk (ideally risk adverse) organisations?
Please mention some of these organisations?<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">US Federal Aviation
Agency (FAA), US Department of Energy, US Air Force, Army
and Navy, US State Department, US Geological Survey,
European Space Agency, Politecnico di Milano at Como, Sweden
Defence Research Agency (FOI)</span><span><span style="color:windowtext;font-style:normal"><u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US">-What is the Open HUB URL for your project?<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.openhub.net/p/wwj" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">https://www.openhub.net/p/wwj</span></a><span lang="EN-US"> and <a href="https://www.openhub.net/p/WebWorldWind" target="_blank">https://www.openhub.net/p/WebWorldWind</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US">-What is the size of the user community? You
can often answer this by mentioning downloads, or
describing a healthy, busy email list?<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The US Government is our
largest ‘formally recognized’ community, with well over a
100,000 users. World Wind apps are a standard in multiple US
agencies. Additionally, the European Space Agency has
standardized on WebWorldWind for delivery of spatial data.
The <a href="http://www.WorldWindCentral.com" target="_blank">www.WorldWindCentral.com</a> forum has: Threads: 13,095;
Posts: 73,902; Members: 32,080; Active Members: 90</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US">-What is the size of your developer
community?<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Because applications
using World Wind are many, especially throughout the US
Government, we cannot confirm the actual size of that
community but it is estimated to be in the hundreds.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US">-Do you have a bug free, stable release?<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Yes, the latest stable
version, 2.0.0 for the Java and the last in the website for
the Web’s one.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US">-Please discuss the level of testing that
your project has gone through.<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">All versions of World
Wind are tested before each release. Additionally, feedback
via the forum contribute to identification of issues found
by the open source community and these are addressed
accordingly.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US">-How long has the project has had mature
code.<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">World Wind began as a
.NET app in 2003 with some days in 2004 at SourceForge
(<a href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/nasa-exp/" target="_blank">http://sourceforge.net/projects/nasa-exp/</a>) of almost
100,000 downloads a day at ~250MB (including a base set of
imagery and elevation data for the world, the application
was only a small fraction of that). The Java version has
been mature since late 200, the iOS version since 2014 and
the web version continues to mature, but has been
standardized on for use by the European Space Agency.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US">OSGeo-Live is targeted at applications that
people can use rather than libraries. Does the application
have a user interface (possibly a command line interface)
that a user can interact with? (We do make an exception
for Incubated OSGeo Libraries, and will include Project
Overviews for these libraries, even if they don't have a
user interface.)<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Yes, in both version it
has </span>a <span lang="EN-US">user interface to interact
with the globe, even though its main purpose is aimed to
develop new applications. It includes </span>a <span lang="EN-US">lot of examples (with the proper source code)
to test all the features using a graphical user interface.</span><span><span style="color:windowtext;font-style:normal"><u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US">-We give preference to OSGeo Incubated
Projects, or Projects which are presented at </span></span><a href="http://foss4g.org/" target="_blank"><span><span style="text-decoration:none" lang="EN-US">FOSS4G</span></span></a><span><span lang="EN-US"> conferences.
If your project is involved in OSGeo Incubation, or has
been selected to be presented at FOSS4G, then please
mention it.<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">It was presented on
different FOSS4Gs and is also in the OSGeo wish list</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US">- Who will act as the project's liaison
person.<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Gabriele Prestifilippo</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US">-Can you please discuss how your application
will be installed.<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">About the installation
for both versions, it will use a custom script, which
downloads the files, and then copies them into a directory,
from which is possible to find samples and executables.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US">-OSGeo-Live is memory and disk constrained.
Can the application run in 512 Meg of RAM?<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Yes</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US">-How much disk space will be required to
install the application and a suitable example
application?<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The java version
occupies around 300mb with samples</span>, but might be
possible to reduce the size removing some files (documentation
~130mb )<span lang="EN-US">. While less than 20mb the Web
version</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US">- Each OSGeo-Live application requires a
Project Overview available under a </span></span><a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/" target="_blank"><span><span style="text-decoration:none" lang="EN-US">CC By</span></span></a><span><span lang="EN-US"> and a
Quickstart available under a </span></span><a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/" target="_blank"><span><span style="text-decoration:none" lang="EN-US">CC By-SA</span></span></a><span><span lang="EN-US"> license. (You
may release under a second license as well). Will you
produce this?<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Yes</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US">-In past releases, we have included Windows
and Mac installers for some applications. It is likely we
won't have space for these in future releases. However, if
there is room, would you be wishing to include Windows
and/or Mac installers?<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Yes</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Gabriele</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225);border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0cm"><b>From:
</b><a href="mailto:gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com" target="_blank">Angelos Tzotsos</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>martedì 5 gennaio 2016 18:13<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:gabrieleprestifilippo@gmail.com" target="_blank">Gabriele
Prestifilippo</a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:live-demo@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">live-demo@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Live-demo] Submit new project - NASA
WorldWind<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Hi Gabriele,</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Thank you for picking up this task.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>For the install script, can you please
provide a pull request here:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><a href="https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/tree/master/bin" target="_blank">https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/tree/master/bin</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Proposed script name:
install_worldwind.sh<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Also, you can issue a pull request for
the documentation here:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><a href="https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc" target="_blank">https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>In order to accept the pull requests, you
will need to confirm that you will comply with our license
guidelines:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Git_migration" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Git_migration</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Best,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Angelos<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225);border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0cm"><br>
<b>From: </b><a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">Cameron Shorter</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>lunedì 4 gennaio 2016 22:53<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:gabrieleprestifilippo@gmail.com" target="_blank">Gabriele
Prestifilippo</a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:live-demo@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">live-demo@lists.osgeo.org</a>;
<a href="mailto:patrick.hogan@nasa.gov" target="_blank">Hogan, Patrick
(ARC-PX)</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Live-demo] Submit new project - NASA
WorldWind</p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span>Hi Gabriele,<br>
Great to hear from you and interest in seeing NASA WorldWind
on OSGeo-Live.<br>
<br>
The first step in including a project is to send an email to
this list addressing the questions linked from:<br>
<a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#How_to_add_a_project_to_OSGeoLive" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#How_to_add_a_project_to_OSGeoLive</a><br>
<br>
This helps us determine whether a project is a good fit for
OSGeo-Live, and also consider any logistical issues which we
might face (such as if there is enough space).<br>
<br>
I'm looking forward to working with you further on this.<br>
<br>
Warm regards,<br>
<br>
Cameron (one of the OSGeo-Live coordinators)<br>
<br>
</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>On 5/01/2016 5:07 am, Gabriele
Prestifilippo wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">D</span><span>ear all, </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I'm writing here on behalf of Patrick
Hogan's suggestion, to propose the inclusion of NASA World
Wind in the next OSGeo release (<a href="http://goworldwind.org/" target="_blank">http://goworldwind.org/</a>
and <a href="http://webworldwind.org/" target="_blank">http://webworldwind.org/</a>).
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I've been asked to fulfill the
requirements from the Wiki, and I created the scripts for
the project and prepared the documentations. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Let me know </span><span lang="EN-US">what else </span><span>is needed to</span><span> <span lang="EN-US">proceed.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Best regards, </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Gabriele Prestifilippo </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><br>
<br>
<br>
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<pre>-- </pre>
<pre>Cameron Shorter,</pre>
<pre>Software and Data Solutions Manager</pre>
<pre>LISAsoft</pre>
<pre>Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,</pre>
<pre>26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009</pre>
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<a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc</a><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Times New Roman';font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">Angelos Tzotsos, PhD<br>OSGeo Charter Member<div><a href="http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos" target="_blank">http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos</a></div></span></span></div></div></div>
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