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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Cameron.<br>
<br>
It's almost imposible to merge the projects again in one only: we
have done so many changes to the JUMP core code that it differs a
lot from the original one and can be merged back to other JUMP
branches.<br>
<br>
We share a base common, so some plugins and tools can be
translated from one project to another (e.g.: some Kosmo CAD tools
have been ported to OpenJUMP a few weeks ago, and some OpenJUMP
plugins were translated and added to Kosmo Desktop a few years
ago). But the changes done to the common core avoids any
possibility to merge both in only one project.<br>
<br>
Some examples of the changes:<br>
<ul>
<li>Datasources: Kosmo Desktop uses an "on demmand"
architecture, we don't load the whole layer into memory as
JUMP do.</li>
<li>Projections: Kosmo Desktop allows vectorial (and raster for
the new version) on the fly reprojection. This is not possible
in JUMP, as projections aren't taken into account.<br>
</li>
<li>Rendering engine: Kosmo Desktop uses a different rendering
engine.</li>
<li>Extension mechanism: Similar between both projects, but we
have pushed some changes that are not valid for OpenJUMP.</li>
<li>Project files: Totally different approaches.</li>
<li>Simbology: Totally different approaches, Kosmo uses a
simbology very close to the SLD standard<br>
</li>
</ul>
Regards,<br>
<br>
El 07/06/2017 a las 22:06, Cameron Shorter escribió:<br>
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<p>Hi Sergio,</p>
<p>Further to Angelos' email. <br>
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<p>As I understand it, Kosmo is one of a number of forks of the
Jump codebase? Are there opportunities to combine the projects
back together again, and then benefit from combined communities
and combine marketing?</p>
<p>Maybe handle differences by using a plugin concept (which is
the approach used by QGIS)?</p>
<p>Warm regards, Cameron<br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/6/17 3:40 am, Angelos Tzotsos
wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Sergio,<br>
<br>
Thank you for updating the metrics page and for your
contribution of Kosmo to the OSGeo-Live.<br>
<br>
I went through the links provided in the metrics page and I
landed in Kosmo's home page.<br>
I realized that we have been promoting Kosmo v3.1 through
OSGeo-Live for some releases now, but actually this version
was never released on your page. This is not a good open
source practice, and reflects bad to both projects.<br>
<br>
You mentioned a 3.2 release coming soon, I hope to see that
version officially released so we can consider adding Kosmo
back to OSGeo-Live.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Angelos<br>
<br>
<br>
On 06/06/2017 11:37 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:b674c111-bc8a-5047-12b8-21e253fedcb1@gmail.com">I'm
looping the osgeo-live email list into this conversation, to
open up the opportunity to comment. <br>
<br>
Cameron <br>
<br>
<br>
On 6/6/17 11:15 pm, Sergio Baños Calvo wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hi Cameron. <br>
<br>
Here it's the OpenHub metrics for Kosmo Desktop (sorry for
the delay, i had some problems to get them up to date): <br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.openhub.net/p/kosmo_desktop">https://www.openhub.net/p/kosmo_desktop</a>
<br>
<br>
Feel free to check and let me know if it's worth to let
Kosmo Desktop form part of the OSGeo-LiveDVD. <br>
<br>
Regards, <br>
<br>
El 31/05/2017 a las 21:49, Cameron Shorter escribió: <br>
<blockquote type="cite"> <br>
Thanks Sergio for looking into this. <br>
<br>
We are open to being convinced that kosmo is still a
project that should be on OSGeo-Live. <br>
<br>
Warm regards, Cameron <br>
<br>
<br>
On 31/5/17 6:29 pm, Sergio Baños Calvo wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">Good morning Cameron. <br>
<br>
Those are bad news :(... <br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">* There is no version change of
Kosmo for a number of releases. <br>
</blockquote>
We haven't increased the Kosmo Desktop number version
due to internal reasons. The next OsGeo-LiveDVD would
include the new 3.2 version. <br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">* We don't have any OpenHub
metrics for Kosmo to check community activity <br>
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I'm taking care of this, I'll warn you as soon as the
openhub metrics are all completed so you can check the
activity and could change the opinion about the project.
<br>
<br>
Regards, <br>
<br>
El 27/05/2017 a las 21:50, Cameron Shorter escribió: <br>
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Hi Sergio, <br>
<br>
We have identified Kosmo as a candidate for retiring
from OSGeo-Live. The reasons for considering this are:
<br>
<br>
* There is no version change of Kosmo for a number of
releases. <br>
<br>
* We don't have any OpenHub metrics for Kosmo to check
community activity <br>
<br>
So the question we ask is "Should we recommend new
users adopt Kosmo over equivalent Open Source GIS
alternatives?" <br>
<br>
A good way to demonstrate that is by demonstrating an
active community. <br>
<br>
I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this? <br>
<br>
Feel free to CC the OSGeo-Live list with your response
if you like. <br>
<br>
Warm regards, Cameron <br>
<br>
<br>
On 15/5/17 4:27 pm, Sergio Baños Calvo wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hi Astrid, <br>
<br>
I'll check and prepare the latest one to be added to
the new version of OSGeo-Live. <br>
<br>
The Project Overview and Quickstart will be valid
for the new one, but I'll check and add the newest
functionalities (and some use cases) to both of
them. <br>
<br>
Regards, <br>
<br>
El 09/05/2017 a las 21:09, <a
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<blockquote type="cite">Hi Sergio, <br>
<br>
we have started our build cycle for OSGeo-Live
11.0, due to be released at the end of July 2017,
in time for FOSS4G 2017 in August. <br>
<br>
We are interested to know which version of kosmo
should be installed on OSGeo-Live 11.0? <br>
<br>
Version 3.1 was installed on OSGeo-Live 10.5. <br>
<br>
Note that our installer feature freeze is 5. June
2017! <br>
<br>
Please give us feedback and get involved or
provide a different person as contact person,
which will update your project. <br>
<br>
We are asking all OSGeo-Live projects to let us
know: <br>
1. What versions of projects should be on
OSGeo-Live? <br>
2. Are there any new projects which should be on
OSGeo-Live? <br>
3. Are there any projects which should be dropped
from OSGeo-Live? <br>
<br>
Do you think we should drop kosmo from OSGeo-Live?
<br>
<br>
As per last announcement [1], with our next
OSGeo-Live release we intend to focus on quality,
and as such will be asking each project: <br>
1. To help install the latest stable version of
the software. <br>
2. To verify Project Overview and Quickstarts are
both up to date and in line with our documentation
standards. <br>
<br>
You can see results of our first pass review in
our status spreadsheet [2], column T "11.0
comment", and column U "10.0 Doc Review". <br>
<br>
[1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_75">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_75</a>
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[2] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150</a><br>
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Key Milestones <br>
------------------- <br>
15-May-2017 Decide versions of applications to be
installed on OSGeo-Live <br>
22-May-2017 Draft installers for new applications
complete <br>
5-Jun-2017 OSGeo-Live Feature Freeze (final
application versions installed) <br>
19-Jun-2017 OSGeo-Live delivered to UAT (final
application versions installed - Beta stage) <br>
24-Jul-2017 OSGeo-Live Final ISO <br>
14-Aug-2017 FOSS4G 2017 Boston <br>
<br>
... full schedule <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE&hl=en_GB">http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE&hl=en_GB</a><br>
<br>
We are waiting for your response concerning your
project kosmo. Any questions, please ask via the
OSGeo-Live mailing list (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:live-demo@lists.osgeo.org">live-demo@lists.osgeo.org</a>)
or directly. <br>
<br>
Warm regards, <br>
<br>
Astrid <br>
-- <br>
Astrid Emde <br>
Charter Member <br>
Open Source Geospatial Foundation <br>
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Sergio Baños Calvo <br>
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Jefe de desarrollos / Development chief <br>
Sistemas Abiertos de Información Geográfica,S.L.
(SAIG S.L.) <br>
Tlfno. móvil / Mobile phone: (+34) 685005960 <br>
Tlfno. fijo / Office phone: (+34) 954788876 <br>
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E-mail: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:sbc@saig.es">sbc@saig.es</a> <br>
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Cameron Shorter <br>
M +61 419 142 254 <br>
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Sergio Baños Calvo <br>
<br>
Jefe de desarrollos / Development chief <br>
Sistemas Abiertos de Información Geográfica,S.L. (SAIG
S.L.) <br>
Tlfno. móvil / Mobile phone: (+34) 685005960 <br>
Tlfno. fijo / Office phone: (+34) 954788876 <br>
<br>
E-mail: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:sbc@saig.es">sbc@saig.es</a> <br>
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-- <br>
Cameron Shorter <br>
M +61 419 142 254 <br>
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-- <br>
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Sergio Baños Calvo <br>
<br>
Jefe de desarrollos / Development chief <br>
Sistemas Abiertos de Información Geográfica,S.L. (SAIG S.L.)
<br>
Tlfno. móvil / Mobile phone: (+34) 685005960 <br>
Tlfno. fijo / Office phone: (+34) 954788876 <br>
<br>
E-mail: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:sbc@saig.es">sbc@saig.es</a>
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