<html>
  <head>
    <meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv="Content-Type">
  </head>
  <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
    <p>Looping OSGeo-Live back into the conversation with permission,
      (Jody isn't subscribed to osgeo-live list).</p>
    <p>Jody, happy to discuss how branding/logos etc can be updated
      (probably for next release rather than this coming one).</p>
    <p>However, it would be good to get the sponsors page up to date
      with this release. If you can help with guiding what you see needs
      doing, that would be appreciated.</p>
    <p>Thanks Cameron<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17/6/17 7:43 am, Jody Garnett wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAOhbgA=Y4TnL1zaXEZdDaKqqsP01N+2XLAKyXb9o2J8ZbSvVOA@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr"><br>
        <div>About OSGeo Incubating logo - I would like to change that
          to reflect the "OSGeo Community" branding established last
          year. I can open a bug ticket formally as incubation chair if
          you like. We also have new OSGeo branding in the works if
          there is a chance to include that in OSGeo Live.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>The <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="https://live.osgeo.org/en/sponsors.html">https://live.osgeo.org/en/sponsors.html</a>
          page may need a sponsors refresh (no longer called OSGeo
          Supporting Sponsors for example).</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>With respect to LocationTech and other organizations, I
          hope the new website gives us a chance to write down formally
          how the organization interact - in addition to some of the
          joint activities undertaken to promote open source.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I should draw on your experience with osgeo live, - I would
          like to list OSM and <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://naturalearthdata.com">naturalearthdata.com</a>,
          but i am not sure OSGeo (or OSGeo Live) has any formal
          relationship (or just a tradition of promoting these great
          resources). Do you have any details?</div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
        <div>
          <div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">
            <div dir="ltr">
              <div>
                <div dir="ltr">
                  <div>--</div>
                  <div>Jody Garnett</div>
                </div>
              </div>
            </div>
          </div>
        </div>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On 16 June 2017 at 13:15, Cameron
          Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">Marc, Jody,
              <p>As you have probably noticed, we have "OSGeo Incubated"
                and "OSGeo Incubating" logos in our Project Overviews. I
                see a place for "LocationTech Incubated" logos as well.
                However before introducing LocationTech concepts on
                OSGeo-Live, I think it important to work out how to
                explain these concepts easily to new users (OSGeo-Live's
                primary target audience).<br>
              </p>
              <p>I think the relationship between OSGeo and LocationTech
                is unclear to many who are unsure whether the two are
                competitors or complementary. So if we add the
                LocationTech concept into OSGeoLive, I think we need to
                help new (and existing) users by referencing a few
                paragraphs saying:</p>
              <p>"OSGeo is this, LocationTech is that". Defining "this
                and that" needs to be jointly agreed upon, and I suspect
                will involve a long public email thread. Hopefully less
                heated than prior discussions on this topic.<br>
              </p>
              Warm regards, Cameron
              <div>
                <div class="h5"><br>
                  <br>
                  <div class="m_-6716638963282696168moz-cite-prefix">On
                    15/6/17 7:44 am, Jody Garnett wrote:<br>
                  </div>
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <div dir="ltr">Tagging in Marc with his LocationTech
                      hat on.
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Marc you have been interested in having
                        LocationTech projects list themselves on OSGeo
                        live. I have asked Cameron if the projects could
                         have the LocationTech logo as part of their
                        description.</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Cameron I see a distinction between a company
                        and a software foundation here; I would like to
                        recognize projects that are bigger than a single
                        company. I also note that QGIS has its own
                        foundation, so this may be a general pattern for
                        the OSGeo Live project to consider.</div>
                    </div>
                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
                      <div>
                        <div
                          class="m_-6716638963282696168gmail_signature"
                          data-smartmail="gmail_signature">
                          <div dir="ltr">
                            <div>
                              <div dir="ltr">
                                <div>--</div>
                                <div>Jody Garnett</div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">On 14 June 2017 at 14:04,
                        Cameron Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span>
                        wrote:<br>
                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0
                          0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                          solid;padding-left:1ex">
                          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
                            <p>Hi Jody,</p>
                            <p>I'm open to considering changes future
                              OSGeo-Live documentation templates, (we
                              don't have time for this 11.0 release).
                              However, I'm very mindful that we need to
                              make sure that anything added to the
                              template is something that would be
                              relevant to all projects. And something
                              that we can sustainably maintain. More
                              importantly, how to you remove a company
                              that is not actively involved in a project
                              any more without causing a political
                              storm?</p>
                            <p>As such, I don't think we should be
                              adding company contributors to Project
                              Overviews.<br>
                            </p>
                            Cheers, Cameron
                            <div>
                              <div class="m_-6716638963282696168h5"><br>
                                <br>
                                <div
                                  class="m_-6716638963282696168m_257139736024218931moz-cite-prefix">On
                                  14/6/17 11:39 pm, Jody Garnett wrote:<br>
                                </div>
                                <blockquote type="cite">This has nothing
                                  to do with sponsors, it is showing a
                                  project organization. Similar to
                                  marking osgeo projects. <br>
                                  <div class="gmail_quote">
                                    <div dir="ltr">On Wed, Jun 14, 2017
                                      at 4:37 AM Angelos Tzotsos <<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com"
                                        target="_blank">gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com</a>>
                                      wrote:<br>
                                    </div>
                                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                      style="margin:0 0 0
                                      .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                                      solid;padding-left:1ex">On
                                      06/14/2017 02:31 PM, Cameron
                                      Shorter wrote:<br>
                                      ><br>
                                      > On 14/6/17 2:53 am, Jody
                                      Garnett wrote:<br>
                                      >> 2) <a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="https://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/udig_overview.html"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://live.osgeo.org/en/over<wbr>view/udig_overview.html</a><br>
                                      >><br>
                                      >> Can we add the
                                      LocationTech logo to this (and
                                      other) LocationTech<br>
                                      >> projects?<br>
                                      ><br>
                                      > Hi Jody,<br>
                                      ><br>
                                      > OSGeo sponsors are listed on
                                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="https://live.osgeo.org/en/sponsors.html"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://live.osgeo.org/en/spon<wbr>sors.html</a><br>
                                      ><br>
                                      > There is a spot of Project
                                      Overviews to link to a Support
                                      page (and<br>
                                      > the external support page can
                                      have sponsor logos).<br>
                                      ><br>
                                      > Adding sponsor logos directly
                                      in the Project Overview would
                                      break our<br>
                                      > current template. If we were
                                      to update the template to include
                                      sponsor<br>
                                      > logos, it would  require an
                                      audit of each project's sponsor
                                      list with<br>
                                      > every release. This is a non
                                      trivial commitment which I don't
                                      think we<br>
                                      > are resourced to keep up to
                                      date.<br>
                                      ><br>
                                      > Warm regards,<br>
                                      ><br>
                                      Which also reminds me that we need
                                      to update the sponsors page...<br>
                                      <br>
                                      --<br>
                                      Angelos Tzotsos, PhD<br>
                                      Charter Member<br>
                                      Open Source Geospatial Foundation<br>
                                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos</a><br>
                                      <br>
                                    </blockquote>
                                  </div>
                                  <div dir="ltr">-- <br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">
                                    <div dir="ltr">--
                                      <div>Jody Garnett</div>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                </blockquote>
                                <br>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                            <span>
                              <pre class="m_-6716638963282696168m_257139736024218931moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Cameron Shorter
M <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:+61%20419%20142%20254" value="+61419142254" target="_blank">+61 419 142 254</a></pre>
                            </span></div>
                        </blockquote>
                      </div>
                      <br>
                    </div>
                  </blockquote>
                  <br>
                  <pre class="m_-6716638963282696168moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Cameron Shorter
M <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:+61%20419%20142%20254" value="+61419142254" target="_blank">+61 419 142 254</a></pre>
                </div>
              </div>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
        </div>
        <br>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Cameron Shorter
M +61 419 142 254</pre>
  </body>
</html>