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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">This is a re-occuring discussion for
every FOSS4G LOC :)<br>
The OSGeo-Live project does not have a budget.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Angelos<br>
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On 06/20/2017 05:35 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Brian and Guido:
Chatting with Marc about marketing budget and trying to see what events we
can ask the marketing committee to support.
When you say "we will be printing some kind of USB storage with branding"
is that:
a) The OSGeo Live project (does it have budget for printing).
b) The marketing committee printing (should we balance need for new booth
with USB printing)
Guido has expressed interest in having USB sticks at FOSS4G Boston. Gérald has
expressed interest in having sticks at FOSS4G Europe. I am not sure if
either of these two events has budget to work with or not?
--
Jody Garnett
On 6 June 2017 at 14:56, Brian M Hamlin <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:maplabs@light42.com"><maplabs@light42.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hi Guido - we just discussed this at the weekly project meeting on
Freenode #osgeolive. We will be printing some kind of USB storage with
branding.. the details will be decided,
roughly by the end of June. thanks for your organizing work
best regards from Berkeley, Califorina
--Brian M Hamlin
On Tue, 06 Jun 2017 18:39:06 0000, Guido Stein <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gstein@appgeo.com"><gstein@appgeo.com></a> wrote:
So, does this mean anyone is makig a USB run or not?
On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:18 PM Brian M Hamlin <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:maplabs@light42.com"><maplabs@light42.com></a> wrote:
So - USB Sticks
TL;DR
I am hesitant to recommend building Boot USBs at this time.. It will take
at least one test printing before committing to a run, if
and when we do.
We can print USBs, probably a majority of people who receive them will be
able to boot a laptop,
others will need to use an ISO in Virtual Box or similar. FYI
-
The USB Sticks format is not the same animal as the DVD was.. We made
many DVDs and handed them out, over several versions.. the
process was reliable,
the options clear and the pricing competitive,, We screen printed the
DVDs, bought commodity covers,
and the product could be built in a timely way by one of several vendors..
The USB Sticks are not the same.. We have not made many runs of them..
Technically, I am finding that there are at least two challenges.. One
is the UEFI-Boot and signed kernel,
and that would be the same for a DVD format.. but the Second is .. that
many hardware platforms now seem
to be treating USB boot as a vector for attack.. The user may have to
choose at the BOOT BIOS level
to allow the booting, and even then it is not clear to me that all the
details on boot are being made public. Low-cost windows laptops and also
very expensive server motherboards
seem to both be behaving this way.
The Live has implemented a proces that should allow the UEFI-Boot
with a signed kernel to work.. but it is hard
to get right.. the DVD in later versions suffered from this also..
On Fri, 02 Jun 2017 18:31:42 0000, Guido Stein <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gstein@appgeo.com"><gstein@appgeo.com></a> wrote:
I believe that there is budget for the sticks in Boston, but I think
that is tied to the workshop folks only currently.
That all said, if you could price this out, I will figure out how to help.
-Guido
On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:03 PM Jody Garnett <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com"><jody.garnett@gmail.com></a>
wrote:
If we did a large "printing run" in north america for foss4g and foss4g
europe I could bring a batch to foss4g europe.
--
Jody Garnett
On 1 June 2017 at 13:58, Cameron Shorter <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"><cameron.shorter@gmail.com></a>
wrote:
I'm looping in the OSGeo-Live list.
In particular, I suspect Brian Hamlin will have some valuable advice on
creating OSGeo-Live USBs as he has gone through this process a few
times.
Brian might even be able to recommend a company to create the USBs for
you.
Cheers, Cameron
On 2/6/17 4:39 am, Fenoy Gerald wrote:
Jody,
we shall be able to afford the empty USB Stick.
Gérald Fenoy
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr">gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr</a>
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/">https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/</a>
Le 1 juin 2017 à 20:41, Jody Garnett <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com"><jody.garnett@gmail.com></a> a écrit :
Yeah that is like 1/2 our marketing budget for the year; and we are
going to have a lot of expenses ordering new booth stuff.
Is there a chance the conference registration fee can cover USB stick
purchase?
--
Jody Garnett
On 1 June 2017 at 04:37, Fenoy Gerald <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr"><gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr></a> wrote:
Dear Jody,
thanks a lot for your answer.
I have contacted a french company that provide usb stick printing. Their
proposal is like this: for 300 USB sticks it will cost almost
2000 € when for 400 the cost will go to 2600€.
Nevertheless, I am now wondering. Indeed, from what I can remember,
during the FOSS4G in Bonn there was an OSGeo Booth that was providing
the OSGeoLiveDVD USB sticks. This may be the best option. Indeed, in
case OSGeo is coming to the FOSS4G-Europe with OSGeoLive USB sticks, it
means that we may be able to manage the usb print on our own budget as
it may cost less (as the usb stick size will decrease and the file to
put on the usb stick will be easier to setup, there is no double
partition anymore and so on, still I think that lower than 8go usb
stick won’t be a real use to anybody).
I think that it would be just perfect if OSGeo can have a booth at the
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 for distributing the OSGeoLive USB stick.
Gérald Fenoy
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr">gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr</a>
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/">https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/</a>
Le 19 mai 2017 à 17:52, Jody Garnett <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com"><jody.garnett@gmail.com></a> a écrit :
Gérald:
To proceed we would need to get a better idea of costs involved. I know
you have a hard cap on attendees of 400 - how many sticks would you be
printing and do you have a quote we can work from?
Are we sharing this cost with the LOC? OSGeo live is bootable so it
cannot really be used to easily give people a copy of the event program
(unless you make a partition I guess).
I would like to considers USB sticks as part of our expense in
attending the event - while they are a good tool they are only one of
the tools available. --
Jody
On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 3:10 AM Fenoy Gerald <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr"><gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr></a>
wrote:
Dear marketing committee,
I would like to know if it is possible for the FOSS4G-Europe 2017 LOC
to ask the OSGeo marketing committee for some fund to handle the USB
stick production to give to every attendees.
The USB stick should contains OSGeoLive and the program associated with
the event. The USB Sticks will then be used during the workshops,
mainly for those that ask attendees to come with their own computer but
it may also be used in other workshops also.
I hope to hear back from you.
Best regards,
Gérald Fenoy
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr">gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr</a>
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
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