<div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>We had a short discussion about this topic 2 weeks ago in our weekly OSGeoLive meeting, where we asked for volunteers to mentor this initiative.</div><div><br></div><div>As a result of those challenges for OSGeoLive I would see: </div><div>1. Some updated quickstarts (e.g. GeoNode which is the code base of GeoShape)</div><div>2. New workshop materials being added in the wiki we publish, along with their data.</div><div><br></div><div>Any volunteers for helping out as mentors for the documentation?</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Angelos</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 12:26 AM, Maria Antonia Brovelli <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it" target="_blank">maria.brovelli@polimi.it</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Dear Cameron</div>
<div>Yes, we already presented the initiative to Angelos and Astrid.</div>
<div>Many thanks for the suggestions. </div>
<div>About the criteria</div>
<div>1) being charter member is not mandatory; everybody can apply. On the other side charter members are people who were awarded with this title and we believe that it is worth to be considered. </div>
<div>2) we want to have young people but with experience in education and training as they have to produce this kind of material. </div>
<div>I believe there are many good candidates and the competition will be very high.</div>
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<div>Thanks a lot also for the typos that we will correct.</div>
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Da: Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>> <br>
Data: 29/03/18 22:08 (GMT+01:00) <br>
A: <a href="mailto:un@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">un@lists.osgeo.org</a>, live-demo <<a href="mailto:live-demo@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">live-demo@lists.osgeo.org</a>>, Angelos Tzotsos <<a href="mailto:gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com" target="_blank">gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com</a>>
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<p>Great initiative, I'm very supportive.</p>
<p>I'm excited to see OSGeoLive engaged prominently in the criteria. I think that OSGeoLive has the potential to be a great asset to the education community and this is an excellent initiative to fast track this.</p>
<p>Have you been talking with someone from the OSGeoLive team about the practical implementation? (Angelos would be a good start). There are a few things that I think need to be thought through:</p>
<p>* OSGeoLive is currently space constrained to our distribution medium. Typically a 4 Gig or 8 Gig USB. Large teaching datasets could cause us challenges. We have options to address this, but it is something we should consider up front.</p>
<p>* OSGeoLive has remained a healthy project for 8 years in part because we have ensured our cost of maintenance doesn't exceed our volunteer capacity. We need to think through how can maintain any material created, and how we can keep maintenance requirements
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* I'd suggest this be changed to "has demonstrable experience within the OSGeo community". One of our best technical contributors to OSGeoLive, who regularly also gave great council, as well as writing very good documentation, was someone who shunned titles
and has never signed up to be an OSGeo Charter member. (As I write this, I think he'd be a good candidate for this project - if he could be tempted). There are others like him. They shouldn't be excluded from applying.<br>
On the other hand, there are some OSGeo Charter members who have done little after joining. I believe creating a "honey-pot" will lead to people applying for charter membership for personal benefit instead of altruistic reasons.
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* I question the purpose of this? If you are trying to increase young people applying, then an age break at 40 doesn't help the struggling end of the age spectrum. (I'd be more inclined to make a break at say 25).<br>
I think you will find older people, will self select themselves out based on their typically higher pay grade.<br>
I'd be inclined to remove this criteria all together.<br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Times New Roman';font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">Angelos Tzotsos, PhD<br>OSGeo Charter Member<div><a href="http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos" target="_blank">http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos</a></div></span></span></div></div></div>
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