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<p>OK. Thanks, I understand. I like number 99 in future then I don't
get any responsibilities more.<br>
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<p>Cheers and good night, Kari<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Vicky Vergara kirjoitti 22.8.2018 klo
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The policy for
this year's to include a language is that the overview files
to be 100% translated.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I dont have
access to the OSGeoLive website location, that is why I
generate it and place it in [1]<br>
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I think the
website will be updated when the final release of the disk is
generated.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">After the
website is updated, upon request, if a language team is
working on a language, I can post in [1] the unfinished work,
so that the team can view how the translation is coming.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">When the
overviews are 100% finished the language will be added in [2]
and most probably the webpage will then be updated
accordingly.<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="">[1] <a
href="https://cvvergara.github.io/OSGeoLive"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://cvvergara.github.io/OSGeoLive</a></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="">[2] <a
href="https://github.com/cvvergara/OSGeoLive-doc/tree/master/locale"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/cvvergara/OSGeoLive-doc/tree/master/locale</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 12:20 PM, Kari
Salovaara <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:kari.salovaara@pp1.inet.fi" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">kari.salovaara@pp1.inet.fi</a>></span>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi,<br>
<br>
thanks Nicolas, quick reply.<br>
<br>
For the issue 1.:<br>
Original:
<blockquote type="cite"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:proxima-nova,"Segoe UI","Helvetica Neue",Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline!important;float:none">`Download <a class="m_5769478581240010232moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://live.osgeo.org/en/download.html" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><http://live.osgeo.org/en/<wbr>download.html></a>`_ osgeolive or osgeolive-mini to your computer's hard drive.</span></blockquote>
the link is probably then <a
class="m_5769478581240010232moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="http://live.osgeo.org/fi/download.html"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><http://live.osgeo.org/fi/<wbr>download.html></a>
(if we guess that language is Finnish => fi (It could
have been some other also like se ;) )<br>
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I looked quickly [1][2] but I think it takes way too much
time at the moment to get involved it that now.<br>
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For translato,r knowledge of process is important:<br>
Source -> Transifex, are version in use texts to
translated updated in Transifex and when new version
replaces previous version? <br>
Translated/translation updates -> how often website
will be updated, will OSGeoLive be updated even version
number stays the same?<br>
<br>
So could Vicky or Angelos, please update Finnish language
into use? Please.<br>
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Cheers, Kari<br>
PS. Now I continue to translate.
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Kari,
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<div>First, thanks for helping us translate
OSGeoLive !</div>
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<div>I'll try to answer your questions but we will
probably need to discuss it with the team, so
feel free to join us, your feedback will be very
important.</div>
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<div>1. Can you provide an example of that ? It
didn't bring to my attention. Usually, I tend to
keep the link as it is so I'm sure it'll be
working. Some translators adapted the urls some
don't, there is no guideline on that subject.</div>
<div>In the case where there is a translated page,
I think the user will be able to get there by
himself. It is less maintenance in our side and
if the project doesn't have translated pages,
the link will send to the English version
anyway.</div>
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<div>2. You can possibly make your local
documentation, there is some guidelines here:
[1] In the past we didn't had Finnish
translations so you will need to add it to the
configuration. See section <span>Adding /
removing a language</span></div>
<div> For the moment, the doc is build separably
then introduced in the liveDVD at its building.
Unfortunately, I'm not the best person to
explain it to you. Please see with Vicky Vergara
or Angelos for that matter.</div>
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<div>3. Regarding the licences, the projects
included in OSGeoLive keeps their licence. But
the documentation for those projects produced
for OSGeoLive (aka overviews, quickstarts and
notebooks) are required to be in CC BY SA 3.0</div>
<div>It was not discussed to change the licence
yet but as said before, feel free to propose it
for discussion.</div>
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<div>4. Short answer is no. We don't have the
workforce to do it for the moment, but it can be
a great quality improvement if we find the
volunteers to do it. Can you please fill an
issue in our track instance [2] ?</div>
<div>I, personally, had troubles with very long
strings and paragraphs, so guidelines and a
taskforce to enforce it might help.</div>
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<div>5. The meeting are logs in [3], so you can
check it easily. You can see the actual state of
the documentation here: <a
href="https://cvvergara.github.io/OSGeoLive/en/index.html"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://cvvergara.<wbr>github.io/OSGeoLive/en/index.<wbr>html</a></div>
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<div>To conclude this, this is my personal opinion
and we can discuss it, feel free to join us at
our weekly meeting every monday at 20:00 UTC</div>
<div>Plus, if it is a real issue, we have a track
instance for issues related to OSGeoLive [2]</div>
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<div>I hope this answers some of your question.</div>
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<div>Best regards,</div>
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<div>Nicolas Roelandt</div>
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<div>[1] <a
href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/wiki/building_the_docs"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://trac.osgeo.org/<wbr>osgeolive/wiki/building_the_<wbr>docs</a></div>
<div>[2] <a
href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://trac.osgeo.org/<wbr>osgeolive/</a></div>
<div>[3] <a
href="http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeolive/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://irclogs.geoapt.com/<wbr>osgeolive/</a></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Le mar. 21 août 2018 à 15:00, Kari
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href="mailto:kari.salovaara@pp1.inet.fi"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">kari.salovaara@pp1.inet.fi</a>>
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1. In text (2 be translated) there is also
internal links and they, of <br>
course, are language based. As they are at the
moment non-existent, <br>
these links be as scientifically best guess?<br>
2. And how and when they could be tested if no
new languages are taken <br>
into package as announced earlier? And where are
the guidelines if I <br>
want to make a version of the DVD/USB where
national translation are <br>
included?<br>
3. Will the licensies of all projects and their
documentation be based <br>
on CC 3.0 (from pre-historical time) or will
there be a great evoluation <br>
process in near future?<br>
4. Is there any quality assurance for the
original texts? Some strings <br>
are more or less in some local dialect which are
really painful to <br>
translate.<br>
5. What was the output of OSGeoLive PSC from
yesterday and what is the <br>
time line now (looked the doc but no changes)<br>
<br>
Cheers, Kari<br>
<br>
PS. Should OSGeoLive name to be changed to
OSGeoLike or OSGeoLove?<br>
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