<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Vicky Vergara</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vicky@georepublic.de">vicky@georepublic.de</a>></span><br>Date: Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 5:12 AM<br>Subject: Re: [OSGeoLive] Contributor list Transifex and ML announcements review<br>To: Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: Nicolas Roelandt <<a href="mailto:roelandtn.pro@gmail.com">roelandtn.pro@gmail.com</a>>, Astrid Emde <<a href="mailto:astroidex@gmail.com">astroidex@gmail.com</a>>, Angelos Tzotsos <<a href="mailto:gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com">gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com</a>>, Brian Hamlin <<a href="mailto:maplabs@light42.com">maplabs@light42.com</a>>, Jeff McKenna <<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a>>, Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>><br></div><br><br><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Cameron in reply to your private mail to me, but in a semi public manner because your mail only reached me privately.<br></div><br><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I am adding to CC the people that were involved in the<font size="2"><span style="font-weight:normal"> "Contributor list Transifex and ML announcements review" mail</span></font><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div>I am adding to CC Jody Garnet because he is our incubation mentor.<br></div><div>I am adding tp CC Jeff McKenna to act as impartial board member observer.</div></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">PSC should be using osgeolive mailing list for this kind of discussions, then the "reply to all problem" would be omitted, it would reach us all</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">or have an osgeolive-dev mailing lists for this kind of discussion, were we would still be public but only PSC and main developers would receive the mail.<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">We should change this way of working of mailing with CC to PSC members when we are working on a mail that is to be sent to the osgelive mailing list.<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 3:23 PM, Cameron Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Vicky, I believe that becoming an OSGeo project means we should
<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span> uphold the principles of OSGeo Incubation.<br>
And this includes following the process we have in place for
ensuring contributors agree to our license terms. <br>
I'm up to debate how we ensure that.<br></p></div></blockquote><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div><span class="gmail_default">Somehow feels that the asking for the debate in a private manner "does not <span class="gmail_default"></span>uphold the principles of OSGeo Incubation" either</span> therefore don't consider this response as a debate consider this response as a <br></div><div><br></div><div>"Vicky brainstorm of what if ..."<br></div><div><br></div><div><b>What if ... </b><span class="gmail_default"><b>one transifex team member does not sign the contribution agreement for translating</b></span><br></div><div></div><div><br></div><div>Steps to remove his translations from transifex<b>:<br></b></div><div><br></div><div>If one person on a language team does not sign the contribution agreement then:</div><div>- remove the person from the team</div><div>-
remove the whole translated language where the person is a team member
basically because we dont use payed service of transifex, for us its
impossible
to know if he did one sentence translation or one file, or 10 files or
100 files translation and we dont have his permission to use the one
sentence translation or one file, or 10 files or
100 files translation. Fast way to do it is remove the language from
transifex.</div><div>-
if the person also belongs to a team of a language that is already in
the OSGeoLive website: Hungarian, Spanish, German, French: remove from
the OSGeoLive repository all traces of the translated files as we can
not use his one sentence translation or one file, or 10 files or
100 files.</div><div>- create again the language in transifex adding the members that signed the translation agreement only<br></div><div>- Ask them to re translate the whole language.</div><div>- Before adding a person as translator the person has to send the agreement and put his name on the translators list. (his name will show even if he does nothing after added as part of the team)</div><div></div><div><br></div><div>I must mention again: This has to be done <span class="gmail_default">because we dont use payed service of transifex, for us its
impossible
to know if he did one sentence translation or one file, or 10 files or
100 files translation</span>.</div><div><br></div><div><b>What if ... we use </b><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><b>Spanish as example of what would happen if <span class="gmail_default">one team member does not sign the contribution agreement for translating:</span></b><br></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">first lets see who are our spanish translators and what they translated:<br></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span></div><div>Students from ENAH<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> and <span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">people</span></span> form the Argentina code sprint translated to Spanish: some people </span>translated <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">some sentences, some others translated complete f</span><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">iles.</span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Most L</span>egwork translating Spanish was done by one of those students only, my niece (must say she translated more than what I translated<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">, I already signed the contribution agreement so no problem with me</span>, I translated around 14%).</div><div><br></div><div>I don't think we will have a problem with her I can make sure she signs the agreement, but I can not speak the same for the rest of the Spanish team members.</div><div>What they need to do:<br></div><div>register to the mailing list. <br></div><div>send the mail with the contribution agreement.<br></div><div>Register into <span class="gmail_default">Github</span><br></div><div>Learn what a PR is</div><div>Learn how to make a PR</div><div>add their name to the file of contributors</div><div>do the PR</div><div><br></div>Suppose one of the Archeology students is busy, exams, finds the process too complicated, or just thinks "too much work for the 10 sentences I translated".</span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Then one of the team members did not sign the contribution agreement</span><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">.</span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">We don't know which sentences were translated by this volunteer, therefore we can not use the translated sentences.</span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">We have to remove all Spanish translation because of that person 10 translated sentences we can not use.<br></span></div><div><br><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span></div><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The worse case is that my niece is busy, has to study for exams, make homework, etc. and she forgets, misses the mail, or an earthquake happens (I dont think this case would happen <a href="http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeolive/%23osgeolive.2017-09-19.log" target="_blank">http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeolive/%23osgeolive.2017-09-19.log</a>) and her computer gets broken. and takes her 6 months to gather enough money to buy another computer. and misses the deadline we set for the contribution agreement. But in this case because I know her, I can let her use my computer to do this administrative task.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">So, because we delete the Language because of lack of that agreement of the student that translated 10 sentences did not sign the agreement <span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">and we can say bye bye to Spanish translation</div></span></span><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Make a new version of the disk, without the Spanish translation.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Update the website so we don't have the Spanish translation.<br></div></span></span><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div></span></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Recreate the language in transifex and start all over with the Spanish translation.</div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div></div></span><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div><span class="gmail_default">My niece will be confused of why all her work was deleted.</span></div><div><span class="gmail_default">I will let X person explain to her why her work had to be deleted. (where X != vicky)<br></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default">More difficult task for X is to convince her to do all the work all over again. Maybe she is volunteering in some other project and has no time to redo all what she did before.<br></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"></span></span>Even more difficult task is to convince me to do the translations all over again because I am in so many things, i don't have time to translate.<br></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default"><br></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default"></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default"><br></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default"></span></div></span><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_extra"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><b>What if ... </b><br></div></div></span><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_extra"><b><br></b></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><b></b>Maybe you remember <span class="gmail_default"> my scratch page I started when I was new on OSGeoLive project:</span><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1b9ARjMBqcZ-1XhSNo9iQdaS1T8QRX5DJMLzIYqUb4yA/edit#heading=h.v1bxxdlkrz0l" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1b9ARjMBqcZ-1XhSNo9iQdaS1T8QRX5DJMLzIYqUb4yA/edit#heading=h.v1bxxdlkrz0l</a></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div></div></span><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_extra"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default"></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" id="m_-1719688334341218210gmail-docs-internal-guid-b8beda59-7fff-b2cf-58b2-7014eb6bdc98"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Too much bureaucracy asked for a “volunteer” to have the PR accepted.</span></p></li><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">First you look for a volunteer,</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Then volunteer, says ok, I will volunteer.</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">“we can not merge your volunteer work, you need to send a mail …..”</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/osgeolive/2016-July/011548.html" style="text-decoration:none" id="m_-1719688334341218210gmail-docs-internal-guid-db78c394-7fff-6e5f-22f2-fcc59b32b3ff" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/osgeolive/2016-July/011548.html</span></a><br></span></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/live-demo/2017-June/012154.html" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/live-demo/2017-June/012154.html</span></a></p></li><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:square;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Wanted to make a point about lack of administration.</span></p></li></ul><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><a href="https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/pull/255#issuecomment-313491055" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/pull/255#issuecomment-313491055</span></a></p></li><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:square;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">When implicitly it is ok to use: </span><a href="https://github.com/hotosm/learnosm/issues/524" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">https://github.com/hotosm/learnosm/issues/524</span></a></p></li></ul></ul></ul><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">What I see from that policy is we have a very complicated way to add volunteers.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">if the volunteer makes a PR that fixes a typo and its your first PR: please send us a mail .... add your name to .... (otherwise we can not merge your PR, we have to do what you did and commit it with a different contributor name)<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default">if the volunteer makes</span> a PR that Added a whole 2000 line quick start and its your first PR: please send us a mail ....</span><span class="gmail_default"> add your name to .... <span class="gmail_default">(otherwise we can not merge your PR, we have to do what you did and commit it with a different contributor name)</span><br></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default">if the volunteer makes a 10 line translation on transifex: <span class="gmail_default">please send us a mail .... add your name to .... (otherwise we can use what you already translated and we have to delete everything, and redo the work already done by you and everyone else )</span></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default">if the volunteer makes a 80% file translation on transifex: <span class="gmail_default">please
send us a mail .... add your name to .... (otherwise we can use what
you already translated and we have to delete everything, and redo the
work already done by you and everyone else )</span></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default"></span></div></span></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">If you are a company that is letting use use your resources, thanks very much for that but you are not named in anyway as contributor, sponsor or "in kind sponsor" any other way. <br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Note: The last one, is because we are using Leopark azure account to use machine translations on transifex, I don't think we reached a consensus about it <span class="gmail_default"><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/osgeolive/2018-July/013232.html" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/osgeolive/2018-July/013232.html</a></span> was not a motion was a request. The lack of trust you showed to a PSC member (me) was too annoying for me <span class="gmail_default">
so I never did anything about adding my son's startup company name on
the sponsors/contributors/translators list on the documentation</span>.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><b>What if ... Instead of this we use that</b><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The <b>this</b>:<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default">Create a 2000 line quickstart = great! your are named on the OSGeoLive contributor list of the documentation, good work!!!</span></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default">fix a typo on the 2000 line quickstart = great! <span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default">your are named on the OSGeoLive contributor list of the documentation, good work!!!</span></span></span></span><br></span></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default">Translate 80% of the files on transifex = great! your are named on the OSGeoLive contributor list of the documentation, good work!!!</span></span></span></span></span><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"></span></span></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default">Translate 10 lines on transifex = great! your are named on the OSGeoLive
contributor list of the documentation, good work!!!</span></span></span></span></span></span><br></span></span></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Let us use your resources (no matter who you are) = <blank></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The <b>that</b>:</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><br></span></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default">Create a 2000 line quickstart = great! your are named on the OSGeoLive contributor list of the documentation, good work!!!</span></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default">fix a typo on the 2000 line quickstart = great! <span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default">your can be found here: <a href="https://github.com/cvvergara/OSGeoLive-doc/graphs/contributors" target="_blank">https://github.com/cvvergara/OSGeoLive-doc/graphs/contributors</a></span></span></span></span><br></span></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default">Translate
80% of the files on transifex = great! your are named on the OSGeoLive
contributor list of the documentation, good work!!!</span></span></span></span></span><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"></span></span></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default">Translate 10 lines on transifex = great! your name can be found here <a href="https://www.transifex.com/osgeo/teams/" target="_blank">https://www.transifex.com/osgeo/teams/</a></span></span></span></span></span></span><br></span></span></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Let us use your resources (no matter who you are) =<span style="font-weight:normal"> <br></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-weight:normal"><i>Corporate Sponsors<br></i></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><i><span style="font-weight:normal">These are corporate entities that have contributed developer time, hosting, resources, in kind or direct monetary funding to the OSGeoLive project:</span></i><div><b><br></b></div><div><b>What if .. We use <span class="gmail_default"><span class="gmail_default">CONTRIBUTING.md</span></span></b><br></div><div><br></div></div></span><span class="gmail_default"></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I dont see a <span class="gmail_default">CONTRIBUTING.md</span> in any of our repositories</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive" target="_blank">https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive</a><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc" target="_blank">https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc</a></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I know its somewhere in the wiki, but so difficult to find, so far away from where the contributions take place.<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><b>What if .. we use this example of simple things</b></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2017-April/003242.html" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2017-April/003242.html</a></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">(it has a license file now, the moment I read that the moment I fixed it)</div><br><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><b>What if .. We start the debate on the appropriate channels</b></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">we would be<span class="gmail_default"></span><span class="gmail_default"></span> "upholding the principles of OSGeo Incubation"</div><br><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Regards</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Vicky<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span> </div></div></span></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p>
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are already using their translations, so, if they dont agree to us
use their translations we have to delete what they translated.
Because we dont have paid service on transifex we dont know what
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<p>There are a number of points here:<br>
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<p>1. One of the OSGeo incubation criteria is that we
ensure that all contributions to OSGeo are available via
our Open Licenses. We achieve that by ensuring that
every person who contributes to OSGeo writes a public
statement saying they agree with our open license, as
per: <br>
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<p><a class="m_-1719688334341218210gmail-m_-87030776273778521m_6383785015976664410moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/wiki/Source_code" target="_blank">https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/wiki/Source_code</a></p>
<p>If we are to comply with our OSGeo Incubation
obligations, then we will need to extend this to
Translations.</p>
<p>How can we ensure that anyone contributing to Transifex
is ok with our open license? Can we get them to send the
same email before we give them access? (I think we are
ok if people use an alias or git id instead of their
real name. One of our contributors is called
wildintellect, and I don't know what his/her real name
is).<br>
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<p>2. If someone contributes to our project, it is the
right thing for us to acknowledge them.<br>
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3. A good measure of OSGeoLive's success is to quote the
number of people who have contributed. Ie, it is good for
us to track number of contributors.<br>
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So I suggest:<br>
* Update to note that to contribute, we will be <b>requiring
</b>your permission if we are to use your translations.<br>
* I've been digging around trying to find the emails we
sent out to committers asking for them to confirm that
they agreed with our open license terms (so you could copy
from it). Unfortunately I haven't had much luck. Angelos
of Brian might remember or be able to dig up an old email.
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<div>You can edit there (for 1 month):</div>
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<div><a href="https://mensuel.framapad.org/p/osgeolive_contributor_consent_message" target="_blank">https://mensuel.framapad.org/p/osgeolive_contributor_consent_message</a><br>
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Salzmannstraße 44,
81739 München, Germany
Vicky Vergara
Operations Research
eMail: vicky@<a href="http://georepublic.de" target="_blank">georepublic.de</a>
Web: <a href="https://georepublic.info" target="_blank">https://georepublic.info</a>
Tel: +49 (089) 4161 7698-1
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Commercial register: Amtsgericht München, HRB 181428
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Vicky Vergara
Operations Research
eMail: vicky@<a href="http://georepublic.de" target="_blank">georepublic.de</a>
Web: <a href="https://georepublic.info" target="_blank">https://georepublic.info</a>
Tel: +49 (089) 4161 7698-1
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Salzmannstraße 44,
81739 München, Germany
Vicky Vergara
Operations Research
eMail: vicky@<a href="http://georepublic.de" target="_blank">georepublic.de</a>
Web: <a href="https://georepublic.info" target="_blank">https://georepublic.info</a>
Tel: +49 (089) 4161 7698-1
Fax: +49 (089) 4161 7698-9
Commercial register: Amtsgericht München, HRB 181428
CEO: Daniel Kastl
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