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<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"><span style="font-family: none; font-size:
14pt; color: #000000; background-color: #ffffff;">for a
technical-yet-understandable discussion with a different emphasis </span></p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><span style="color: #444444; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size:
14pt; text-align: justify; background-color: #ffffff;">Your paper from the 13th
Python in Science Conference</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"><span style="color: #444444; font-family:
arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; text-align: justify;
background-color: #ffffff;"> titled “BCE: Berkeley’s Common Scientific
Compute Environment for Research and Education”</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"><span style="color: #444444; font-family:
arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; text-align: justify;
background-color: #ffffff;"> has been assigned the DOI
10.25080/Majora-14bd3278-002</span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"> cheers --Brian</p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"><br><br>On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 18:04:36 -0800,
Brian M Hamlin <maplabs@light42.com> wrote:</p>
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<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;">Hi All --</p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"> </p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;">> <span style="background-color:
#ffffff;">creating a "OSGeoLive in the Cloud" instance</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"> </p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"> It might be said that OSGeoLive is ...</p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"> </p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;">- a flagship for OSGeo dot org</p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;">- a proof-of-work for UbuntuGIS
integration</p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;">- a service to all of the member software
projects, incubated or others</p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"> literally multiplying the leverage of
interoperable data toolchains when combined</p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;">- a service to all of the science communities
worldwide, in all major human languages</p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;">- a service to students of all kinds, in all
places touched by technology</p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"> ... others not mentioned</p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"> </p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;">So, what might a "cloud" OSGeoLive be ?
news flash, many long-standing projects now</p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;">included on OSGeoLive are quite active in the
cloud and continue to be..</p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"> </p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;">Major cloud players say - Ubuntu OS is the
most popular cloud service OS by number of customers</p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;">OSGeoLive is already an Ubuntu platform
project. so ....</p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"> </p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;">companies handling geospatial data chains are
already using directly, UbuntuGIS PPA to build...</p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;">Some.. but another fact .. Docker technology
easily runs Ubuntu PPA systems on a RedHat base, today.</p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;">The Docker container shares the kernel only
with the host, while the rest of the OS layers are Debian/Ubuntu.</p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"> </p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;">Is there an economic arguement to be made,
with respect to a "cloud" OSGeoLive ?</p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;">I find many economic arguements to be badly
self-contradicting, when viewed broadly.. </p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"> </p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;">The OSGeoLive project has continuity and
serious utility.. beyond that, opinions vary widely..</p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;">Is a "cloud" OSGeoLive the right move ? with
what resources ? open questions</p>
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<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"> best regards from Berkeley, California</p>
<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"> -Brian M Hamlin darkblue_b dbb</p>
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<p style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"><br>On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 20:23:28 +1100,
Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter@gmail.com> wrote:</p>
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padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;">I'm really hopeful that
we'll see some people follow through with <br> creating a "OSGeoLive in the
Cloud" instance which could be spun up and <br> used during training sessions.
(This could be a great Google Season of <br> Code topic). I think this could be
done with free developer AWS <br> instances, but it would be good to have access
to budget if required to <br> support a first deployment.<br><br> Also, it would
be good to have discretionary funding to pay for <br> OSGeoLive USBs for
conferences that ask for it during the year. Maybe do <br> a print run of 500 to
1000 USBs (That would be 50 to 100 USBs at an <br> OSGeo table at a
conference/workshop/code sprint, for 10 to 20 events).<br><br> On 13/1/19 3:11
am, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:<br> > Hello folks,<br> ><br> > yes - it
is time to think about the budget for 2019.<br> ><br><br> -- <br> Cameron
Shorter<br> ...<br><br>
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<p><br> --<br>Brian M Hamlin<br> OSGeo California<br> blog.light42.com</p>
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