<div dir="ltr">Something which is getting more-and-more feasible every year is to run OSGeo-Live as a virtual machine in the cloud.<div><a href="http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com/2009/10/try-open-source-geospatial-desktop.html">We actually managed to do this back in 2009</a>, but the partners working on it got stuck in the following release.</div><div>Someone might want to take another look at this approach? </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 8 Feb 2022 at 01:47, James Klassen <<a href="mailto:jklassen@sharedgeo.org">jklassen@sharedgeo.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir="auto">There was discussion awhile back about supporting ARM for Raspberry Pi and similar SBCs that came to the same conclusion that it would take more developer resources that were available. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="border-color:rgb(0,0,0);color:rgb(0,0,0)">OSGeo Live is meant to “just work” </span><span style="border-color:rgb(0,0,0);color:rgb(0,0,0)">to encourage new users explore the software without having to first face the learning curve of getting it installed and configured correctly. That is a lot more difficult to accomplish when users face to face the variations inherent in running different architectures. </span><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Most, but not all of the packages that go into OSGeo Live are available on ARM (are in Ubuntu-GIS and Debian-GIS or are platform agnostic and install the same files as on x86). So, technically it isn’t too far fetched. But, if I remember correctly, pain points are testing and documentation. I’d venture a guess that, by far, nearly all of the developer time on OSGeo Live is spent on testing and documentation.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Another issue with ARM is that while the user space is the same/similar across ARM devices, a bootable image (like we do with x86) would have to be tailored to each device. Maybe there would be a way to just provide a user space and have the user provide the matching version of Ubuntu for their machine. Maybe the whole thing could be built into a snap or flatpak or appimage. It would still be a different experience than we’ve traditionally had for x86 which raises documentation and ease of use concerns. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I’m also a bit surprised the M1 Macs can’t run x86 OSes in emulation. There were programs that emulated a PC to allow 68k and PowerPC era Macs to run DOS/Windows.</div></div></div><div><div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 04:06 Angelos Tzotsos <<a href="mailto:gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com" target="_blank">gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Dear Barend,<br>
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We do not have an ARM version. This would require more developer <br>
resources than we currently have, so there is currently no plan to <br>
support this architecture.<br>
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Best,<br>
Angelos<br>
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On 2/2/22 01:24, Kobben, Barend (UT-ITC) wrote:<br>
> For installation in the Parallels virtual machine on a new MacPro (running on the Apple silicon architecture), an ARM version instead of an Intel version is needed. Is that available, or will in be...? Or are there alternative ways to get it running on a Mac M1...?<br>
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