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<body>There seems to be some problem when using both iframes and AJAX in firefox. Sometimes, not always the AJAX request never get sent from the browser.<br />
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        That's why the site has been acting strangely this evening when I have tried to figure out what is happening.<br />
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        But now it is restored because I have to do a bigger rewriting I think so I shall set everything up locally.<br />
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        Does anyone happen to knoe anything about this problem here?<br />
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        /Nicklas<br />
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         2010-03-08 Nicklas Avén  wrote:<br />
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        can it be a matter of time?<br />
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        it was about 15 hours ago that I moved the domain name from one webhost to this site.  Somewhere it said that it might take up to 48 hours before it shows up?<br />
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        But that shouldn't be the problem when you get the right ip-address associated I guess?<br />
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        strange!<br />
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        /Nicklas<br />
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         2010-03-08 Jeff Adams  wrote:<br />
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        My packets die after ...<a target="_blank" href="http://telecity.net">telecity.net</a> (tried multiple times):<br />
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        >Tracing route to <a target="_blank" href="http://www.postgisonline.org">www.postgisonline.org</a> [109.74.203.88]<br />
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        >over a maximum of 30 hops:<br />
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        >  1     1 ms     1 ms    <1 ms  216.158.51.81<br />
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        >  2     8 ms    24 ms     9 ms  <a target="_blank" href="http://core-1-mul1.sdfc.dca.net">core-1-mul1.sdfc.dca.net</a> [216.158.59.49]<br />
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        >  3   147 ms   203 ms   175 ms  <a target="_blank" href="http://core-5-gig-vlan-500.sdfc.dca.net">core-5-gig-vlan-500.sdfc.dca.net</a> [216.158.2.3]<br />
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  4     4 ms     7 ms     3 ms  <a target="_blank" href="http://ge2-4.br01.phl02.pccwbtn.net">ge2-4.br01.phl02.pccwbtn.net</a> [63.218.31.9]<br />
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        >  5    79 ms    86 ms    79 ms  <a target="_blank" href="http://telecity.ge9-9.br02.ldn01.pccwbtn.net">telecity.ge9-9.br02.ldn01.pccwbtn.net</a> [63.218.13.222]<br />
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  6    80 ms    81 ms    80 ms  <a target="_blank" href="http://te4-1-dist65-01.lon10.telecity.net">te4-1-dist65-01.lon10.telecity.net</a> [217.20.44.218]<br />
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        >  7     *        *        *     Request timed out.<br />
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        >  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.<br />
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  9     *        *        *     Request timed out.<br />
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        >How weird.<br />
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                                <p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I can reach it from North America, no problem (10h00 GMT -05h00).</span></p>


                                
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                                <p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Pierre</span></p>


                                
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                                                        <p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold;">From:</span><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> <a target="_blank">postgis-devel-bounces@postgis.refractions.net</a>
[mailto:<a target="_blank">postgis-devel-bounces@postgis.refractions.net</a>] <span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span>Nicklas
Avén<br />
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                                                                        ><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span> 8 mars 2010 09:57<br />
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                                                                        ><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span> PostGIS Development Discussion<br />
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                                                                        ><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span> Re: [postgis-devel] PostGISonline.org is online :-)</span></p>

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                                                        <p>very strange<br />
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What can be the reason that I can reach it and not you?<br />
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I can reach it both from my phone via gprs and through my usual internet
connection.<br />
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Yes, it is the right ip-address<br />
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/Nicklas<br />
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2010-03-08 Jeff Adams wrote:<br />
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I still can't reach it:<br />
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>$ ping <a href="http://www.postgisonline.org" target="_blank">www.postgisonline.org</a><br />
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>Pinging <a href="http://www.postgisonline.org" target="_blank">www.postgisonline.org</a>
[109.74.203.88] with 32 bytes of data:<br />
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>Request timed out.<br />
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>(I also get a timeout when trying to access it in a browser)<br />
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>Is that the right IP address?<br />
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>To run the script once a day, you could use something simple like
cron.  There are continuous integration services you could install that
are smart enough to check SVN (the one I'm familiar with is CruiseControl, but
there are others) and build when necessary.  It also would not be too hard
to have your script just look at the last checkin time in SVN and only run if
there's been a change in the last day, hour, 5 minutes, however often you
decide to check.<br />
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>Jeff<br />
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                                                                <p>On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Nicklas Avén
<<a target="_blank">nicklas.aven@jordogskog.no</a>> wrote:<br />
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                                                                        <p>Hallo Jeff<br />
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> It should be up and running. From here it seems to work.<br />
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> Strange if you can't reach it.<br />
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> About the VPS, my understanding is that it is the case as you say. In
Linode you have to activate an internal IP-address if you want to communicate
inside the datacenter. Since I haven't done that I guess my VPS is harmless for
the rest of the virtual servers. <br />
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> I am very impressed so far by <a href="http://linode.com" target="_blank">linode.com</a>.
It was very easy to make an image copy of the whole server, so I have one copy
saved.<br />
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> I'm not worried about the site in itself, as you say I can just boot the
copy instead. What I don't want is an attacker using the server for spamming or
sending out virus. Then I think the site will soon be closed down. <br />
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> About updateing on commit I have thought about it and I think that's a
good idea. <br />
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> There is two alternatives. Just a dropdown choosing database between
latest stable PostGIS installation and nightly build or a special folder for
development snapshot site. I think the latter is better to keep the frontside
as simple as possible since it is the people not knowing so much about PostGIS
and spatial querieng that I think is the main target. <br />
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> But I absolutely think it would be cool if anyone could test tnew
functionality right after commit even if they are not compiling themselves.<br />
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> How to make a script running once a day. I guess the script in i self must
be quite simple when the only thing to do is<br />
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> update svn<br />
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> configure make make install<br />
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> restart server<br />
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> Can you still not reach the site?<br />
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> Thanks<br />
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><span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"> Nicklas</span>> </p>

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> 2010-03-08 Jeff Adams wrote:<br />
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> One last-resort style of security would be:<br />
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> >- Make sure your router disallows communication from your virtual
server to anything else on your internal network.<br />
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> >- Take a snapshot of the virtual server, and restore to the snapshot
every day (or every hour).<br />
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> >That way if/when it gets pwned, it's only pwned for a day (or an
hour).<br />
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> >It also has the effect of resetting the database to a known state (I'm
not sure if the site lets you write data to the DB or not).<br />
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> >That's inconvenient of course if you're trying to do frequent updates
to PostGIS (like from every checkin or something).<br />
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> >I can't connect to the site right now, I dunno if you have taken it
down, or you got slashdotted by this mailing list, or what.<br />
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> >Jeff<br />
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                                                                                                <p>On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Nicklas Avén
<<a target="_blank">nicklas.aven@jordogskog.no</a>> wrote:<br />
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                                                                                                                <p>My first attempt with postgisonline. <a href="http://www.postgisonline.org" target="_blank">www.postgisonline.org</a></p>

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                                                                                                                <p>It is now up and running, but totally without any cosmetics.
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                                                                                                                <p>For those don't knowing what I'm talking about from
some mails in 2009 it is an idea about a site to try and test PostGIS.</p>

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                                                                                                                <p>It is also possible to write simple tutorials that control
text, sql-code, background-map and a backgroundimage if wanted.</p>

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                                                                                                                <p>The tutorial thing works and makes it possible to just pass
the tutorial-utl as a querystring, but I have disabled it now because I don't
know how to handle the security issues.</p>

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                                                                                                                <p>The site is ran on <a href="http://linode.com" target="_blank">linode.com</a> as a Xen-virtulized ubuntu-server. </p>

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                                                                                                                <p>Now there are only a few tables to use in the database but I
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                                                                                                                <p>Now geometry-collections is not handled, but I think I have
an idea how to solve that. But it will not be right now.</p>

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                                                                                                                <p>Try it and give feedback.</p>

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                                                                                                                <p>I will wait a few days before mailing on the user-list
because I want to find the most obvious bugs first.</p>

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                                                                                                        <p>> > </p>

>
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                                                                                                                <p>I someone wants to help I'm greatful.</p>

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                                                                                                        <p>> > </p>

>
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                                                                                                                <p>I will put all code in public when I have cleaned and
structured it a little better.</p>

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                                                                                                        <p>> > </p>

>
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                                                                                                                <p> </p>

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                                                                                                        <p>> > </p>

>
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                                                                                                                <p>I see a lot of development potential init and would like to
make it some sort of open project. </p>

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                                                                                                        <p>> > </p>

>
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                                                                                                                <p> </p>

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                                                                                                        <p>> > </p>

>
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                                                                                                                <p>I have tried it in IE and Firefox</p>

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                                                                                                        <p>> > </p>

>
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                                                                                                        <p>> > </p>

>
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                                                                                                                <p>So, navigate to <a href="http://www.postgisonline.org" target="_blank">www.postgisonline.org</a> and try it</p>

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>
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>
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                                                                                                                <p>Thanks</p>

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>
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>
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