<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Consolas;
panose-1:2 11 6 9 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;
color:black;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
pre
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"HTML Preformatted Char";
margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;}
span.HTMLPreformattedChar
{mso-style-name:"HTML Preformatted Char";
mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"HTML Preformatted";
font-family:"Consolas",serif;
color:black;}
span.EmailStyle19
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-size:10.0pt;}
@page WordSection1
{size:8.5in 11.0in;
margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Peter,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>No plans in PostGIS to separate the two. That is not to say package maintainers can't.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>As I recall I thought Ubutnu / Debian did put the postgis loader etc tools in a separate client package, but it's been a couple of months since I tested so my memory could be wrong. That is not to say that that package doesn't depend on regular PostgreSQL / PostGIS though<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Since both have some functions in common exposed by a sub library.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>On windows for this kind of situalion I copy the loader command line and dependencies to a folder on my webserver and have the webserver use them, not sure if something like that would work, though having as a separate package is more convenient.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Have you looked at something like GDAL/OGR or is that too hefty for your needs?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Hope that helps,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Regina<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> postgis-devel-bounces@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:postgis-devel-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Peter Korduan<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:27 AM<br><b>To:</b> postgis-devel@lists.osgeo.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [postgis-devel] Install only loader<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Hi,<br><br>I'm new to this mailing list. Apologize if my question not fits a conceptional topic of this list.<br>I use postgis since years for a web mapping application, running in single linux based application environments containing a web, map and database server.<br><br>Therefore it was usefull to have the laoder installed together with the postgis extention. User could upload shape files over the webserver, php called shp2pgsql to load the shapes into the database in the background and the map server provide the new layer in its web client interface as many other application do.<br><br>Since i changed the runtime environment to separate docker containers linked together only via services I have the general question to postgis if it not would be a good idea to have the loader in a separate debian package without postgis and postgresql itself.<br><br>It may be more a special question for the debian package builder Francesco Paolo Lovergine, Stephen Frost, Markus Wanner or Bas Couwenberg.<br><br>My problem in a litle more detail.<br>If I have one docker container with a postgis installation e.g. mdillon/postgis. Postgis is installed with all its dependencies. Than I have another container only with a web mapping server. With the postgres container linked into the web container I have access to the database over the tcp connection, but not to the loader. I had to install the loader within the web application container, but the package of postgis would install all these database stuff I have allready in the postgres container. This would be redundant wouldn't it? Anybody know an easy way to install only the loader with a debian or ubuntu base image in a Dockerfile? Is it of interest or planned to support a package only with postgis loader and helpers?<br><br>Thanks in advance for any hints.<br><br>Best regards Peter Korduan <br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>GDI-Service Rostock<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>Dr. Peter Korduan<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>Joachim-Jungius-Str. 9<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>18059 Rostock<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>Tel: 0381 40344444<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>Mobil: 0175 5446411<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>E-Mail: <a href="mailto:peter.korduan@gdi-service.de">peter.korduan@gdi-service.de</a><o:p></o:p></pre></div></body></html>